Subject: Re: [Bier] BIER Ethertype assigned

From: Tony Przygienda <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2018 16:44:44 -0800

contraband just arrived, some people will be jealous ;-P

On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 8:05 AM, Tony Przygienda <[email-masked]>
wrote:

> Signed off proofs
>
> https://www.customink.com/proof_approvals/4546895?token=
> 289e6c62-1796-11e8-ace8-0a92749b9112#proof_0_closeup
>
> they simplified colors a bit but looks OK to me ... Should have them 8th
> or so ...
>
> --- tony
>
> On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 8:07 AM, Tony Przygienda <[email-masked]>
> wrote:
>
>> Stig, yeah, you probably are reading other boring wg threads while I'm
>> getting here the _real_ work done ;-) ;-)
>>
>> You snooze, you loose (but I'll see what my luggage can bear) ...
>>
>> --- tony
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 8:01 AM, Stig Venaas <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>
>>> I guess it may be too late for me to request an XL?
>>>
>>> My fault for not paying attention to this important thread.
>>>
>>> Stig
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 22, 2018 07:46, "Tony Przygienda" <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Your T-shirt is honorary on the group
>>>
>>> Thanks for the design
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from myMail for iOS
>>>
>>>
>>> Wednesday, February 21, 2018, 23:54 -0800 from [email-masked] <
>>> [email-masked]>:
>>>
>>> Excellent, thanks Tony.
>>>
>>> The green is fine (we can call it bottle green!), and the logo is biiig
>>> so I think Peter will catch us easily without a long lens :)
>>>
>>> I can pay in £s or biers ...
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> On 22 Feb 2018, at 06:21, Tony Przygienda <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>>
>>> OK, order placed. Currently I'm planning to bring @ ~17$/each
>>>
>>> Andrew L
>>> Alia  XL
>>> me     L
>>> GregS M
>>> GregM 2L
>>> Toerless XXL
>>> Acee XL
>>> Tim XXL
>>> Ice XXL, XL, L
>>> Les M
>>>
>>> I have more than this ordered but I have weight restrictions traveling
>>> so don't beg, you had your chance ...
>>>
>>> Design below, the forest green was carefully considered by my 3 girls
>>> here and approved as the only one passing minimum fashion bar. Sorrrrrry
>>> ;-)
>>>
>>> https://www.customink.com/designs/bier2/tst0-00bb-4gxq/share
>>> ?pc=EMAIL-40778&utm_campaign=shared%20design&utm_source=shar
>>> e%20link&utm_medium=shared%20design&utm_content=shared%20desktop
>>>
>>> you can always reorder or set up a group order
>>>
>>> The parties above are _obliged_ by a stiff penalty of paying a round of
>>> beer after the workgroup meet to wear the T-shirt to the WG. If you
>>> misjudged you size, I mis-quote our AD as in "It's NOT nice" but you have
>>> to wear it anyway in some form or fashion ...  Ice, you are granted a
>>> special dispensation and it's enough you just wear one of the three but we
>>> encourage creative 3-t-shirt-fashion-statements ... Same for Greg.
>>> Bandanas, Fez, diapers, possibilities are limitless ...
>>>
>>> I trust Peter L to bring one of his 50lb lenses to capture the occasion
>>> ...
>>>
>>> --- tony
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 2:16 PM, Greg Shepherd <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>>
>>> You are incorrect, Sir. Greg S is an M in T. S Ts often fit my torso
>>> better, but they cut into my arm pits. For the record..
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> > On Feb 19, 2018, at 16:49, Tim Chown <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> > Thanks for this - XXL (due the beer Stig forces me to drink ;)
>>> >
>>> > Tim
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> On 19 Feb 2018, at 21:23, Toerless Eckert <[email-masked]> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Ah, now i know.
>>> >>
>>> >> There is Greg S&M and Greg M2L.
>>> >>
>>> >> That's easy to remember.  ;-)
>>> >>
>>> >> [PC disclaimer: both this and my prior email on this thread where
>>> tongue in cheek].
>>> >>
>>> >>> On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 01:01:17PM -0800, Tony Przygienda wrote:
>>> >>> Greg S = Shep
>>> >>> Greg M = Mirsky
>>> >>>
>>> >>> You have been couple times around IETF, haven't you Toerless ;-)
>>> [just
>>> >>> tongue in cheek]
>>> >>>
>>> >>> albeit I agree that having the first letters of their last name
>>> >>> corresponding to T-shirt sizing is an intriguing mystery of the
>>> universe
>>> >>> probably needing an entry in the Hitchhiker ;-)
>>> >>>
>>> >>> --- tony
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 12:57 PM, Toerless Eckert <[email-masked]>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> a) Thank you so much !
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> b) > GregS M
>>> >>>>> GregM 2L
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>  hmm.. i am confused.
>>> >>>>  Looks as if we have Greg Small, Greg Medium, and 2 Greg Large, but
>>> who
>>> >>>> is who... ;)
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Cheers
>>> >>>>   Toerless
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 12:37:10PM -0800, Tony Przygienda wrote:
>>> >>>>> OK, I just realized I can only bring a certain amount of stuff
>>> weight
>>> >>>> wise
>>> >>>>> anyway. I have currently
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Andrew L
>>> >>>>> Alia  ?
>>> >>>>> me     L
>>> >>>>> GregS M
>>> >>>>> GregM 2L
>>> >>>>> Toerless XXL
>>> >>>>> Acee XL
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> I will order the following mix
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> 10% XXL
>>> >>>>> 20% XL
>>> >>>>> 40% L
>>> >>>>> 20% M
>>> >>>>> 10% S
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> and bring as many I manage to London (expect 10 or so) along this
>>> mix
>>> >>>>> including the pre-ordered sizes if people want (looks about
>>> 20$/pop). I
>>> >>>>> will try to open a group order as well so e'one can just
>>> additional ones
>>> >>>>> (but of course I will not sign those as limited edition ;-)
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> check the design on
>>> >>>>> https://www.customink.com/designs/bier/tst0-00bb-1c6c/
>>> >>>> share?pc=EMAIL-40778&utm_campaign=shared%20design&utm_
>>> >>>> source=share%20link&utm_medium=shared%20design&utm_
>>> >>>> content=shared%20desktop
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> and let me know whether it's acceptable. I pushed it down to 5
>>> colors and
>>> >>>>> no back text to keep price in check ...
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> --- tony
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 2:49 PM, Greg Shepherd <[email-masked]>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> :D
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Custom Ink. You'll need an account to buy anyway. Once a shirt is
>>> >>>> designed
>>> >>>>>> it can be shared and ordered at will.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 2:43 PM, Toerless Eckert <[email-masked]>
>>> >>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Hah, clone of lmgtfy. You score one gotcha point.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Before responding to your first email, i tried four randomn
>>> shops, and
>>> >>>>>>> they
>>> >>>>>>> all wanted my email to send me a quote. Too annoyed about that to
>>> >>>>>>> continue.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Cheers
>>> >>>>>>>  toerless
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 02:29:36PM -0800, Greg Shepherd wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>> http://bfy.tw/FXAz
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 2:22 PM, Toerless Eckert <[email-masked]
>>> >
>>> >>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> Any recommendations for online services that print even a
>>> single
>>> >>>>>>> shirt ?
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>> Was wondering about the process today. Have not done it in a
>>> long
>>> >>>>>>> time.
>>> >>>>>>>>> Back then
>>> >>>>>>>>> low volume = iron-on process = some nasty rubbery carrier
>>> >>>> material ==
>>> >>>>>>> maybe
>>> >>>>>>>>> even easier to do @home. Used to do it @home for proofing, but
>>> >>>> don't
>>> >>>>>>> like
>>> >>>>>>>>> results.
>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 02:06:16PM -0800, Greg Shepherd wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>> T-'s online are fast and cheap. We could each just steal the
>>> art
>>> >>>>>>> and make
>>> >>>>>>>>>> our own shirts. At our low count, I don't it will make a price
>>> >>>>>>>>> difference.
>>> >>>>>>>>>> There has been discussion about options. Point me to the art.
>>> >>>> I'll
>>> >>>>>>> buy
>>> >>>>>>>>> into
>>> >>>>>>>>>> the default shirt, but I promise I will have my own one-off
>>> BIER
>>> >>>>>>> shirt
>>> >>>>>>>>> too.
>>> >>>>>>>>>> You've been warned.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> Greg
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 1:56 PM, Toerless Eckert <
>>> [email-masked]
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 11:13:18PM -0800, Tony Przygienda
>>> >>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sizes pls ping to list here. I order a pile with spares and
>>> >>>> I
>>> >>>>>>> will
>>> >>>>>>>>> try to
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> pinch 10-15$ poll tax in London for the historically
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> once-in-a-lifetime-but-survives-three-washes-only produce
>>> >>>> ...
>>> >>>>>>> If you
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> pretend to be a student it maybe less ;-)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> XXL if its good quality pre-shrunk cotton.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> XXXL otherwise.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Not sure what you can get for 10..15$ these days.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> And also:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you very much
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Vielen Dank
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Muchas Gracias
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I don't speak F#$^*$% latin.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>   Toerless
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> so, BIER aficionados, shoot ...
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> --- tony
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 4:29 PM, Jeff Tantsura <
>>> >>>>>>>>> [email-masked]>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> +1!
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeff
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> *From: *Tim Chown <[email-masked]>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> *Date: *Thursday, January 18, 2018 at 15:05
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> *To: *Tony Przygienda <[email-masked]>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> *Cc: *"[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>, IJsbrand
>>> >>>>>>> Wijnands <
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email-masked]>, Greg Mirsky <[email-masked]>,
>>> >>>> BIER WG
>>> >>>>>>> <
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email-masked]>, Stig Venaas <[email-masked]>, Toerless
>>> >>>>>>> Eckert <
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email-masked]>, Jeff Tantsura <[email-masked]>,
>>> >>>> Loa
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Andersson <
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email-masked]>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [Bier] BIER Ethertype assigned
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> This?
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll email the high-res version to you and Greg offlist as
>>> >>>>>>> it's
>>> >>>>>>>>> quite
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> big.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Tim
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 18 Jan 2018, at 22:11, Tony Przygienda <
>>> >>>>>>> [email-masked]>
>>> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The last/gold one is _beautiful_.  Let's replace the IETF
>>> >>>> with
>>> >>>>>>>>> RFC8279
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> and
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> keep the hilarious "ABV3.7%" for the conoscenti and we're
>>> >>>>>>> game I
>>> >>>>>>>>> think
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 1:17 PM, Tim Chown <
>>> >>>>>>> [email-masked]>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> More low-res options / colours attached.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Can encode Ethertype as ABV?
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Play with https://www.beerlabelizer.com ;)   You can
>>> >>>> export
>>> >>>>>>> pretty
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> high-res versions too.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm getting thirsty...
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Tim
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 18 Jan 2018, at 20:47, Greg Shepherd <[email-masked]
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> That would be nice too.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 12:27 PM, Tony Przygienda <
>>> >>>>>>>>> [email-masked]
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, maybe more gold/black but otherwise, cool ;-)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd still like to get the EtherType on it, that's a
>>> >>>> biggie ;-)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Another rev?
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --- tony
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 12:09 PM, IJsbrand Wijnands <
>>> >>>>>>> [email-masked]
>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Love it :-)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 18 Jan 2018, at 20:39, Tim Chown <[email-masked]
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 18 Jan 2018, at 16:08, Tony Przygienda <
>>> >>>>>>> [email-masked]>
>>> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Suggest the clever text, Mr. Witty ;-)   I would tend to
>>> >>>> go
>>> >>>>>>> with
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> black/gold on white, that is chintz ;-)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Finding http://andyslusher.blogspot.co.uk/2011/07/7-
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> sources-for-creating-your-own.html
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> led to the very fun to play with
>>> >>>>>>> https://www.beerlabelizer.com/
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> resulting in the attached, the higher res version of which
>>> >>>>>>> could
>>> >>>>>>>>> go on
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> a
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> black or other tee, or on a bottle on a tee.  Or not, but
>>> >>>>>>> maybe
>>> >>>>>>>>> there's
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> inspiration somewhere there ;)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Tim
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 7:54 AM, Greg Shepherd <
>>> >>>>>>> [email-masked]>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not a fan of loads of mixed colors. Simple one or two
>>> >>>>>>> colors,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> clever
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> text to make them think. I'd like the arch RFC and maybe
>>> >>>> the
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ethertype. PIM
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> being hauled off on a bier (look it up) would be fun. :)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Greg
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 11:43 PM, Tony Przygienda <
>>> >>>>>>>>> [email-masked]
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Loa, thanks for the eclectic suggestion ;-) So that would
>>> >>>> be
>>> >>>>>>> black
>>> >>>>>>>>> &
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> gold
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> on white with some quirky font?  Stig concurs?  ;-)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --- tony
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 11:23 PM, Loa Andersson <
>>> >>>> [email-masked]>
>>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Tony, Jeff.et.al.,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Since we are about to go to London, why no Samuel
>>> >>>> Smithie's
>>> >>>>>>>>> Imperial
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Stout, just use the (white) label against black background
>>> >>>>>>> (as the
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> bottle).
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/113/782/
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> One of the best beers brewed, especially if you can get
>>> >>>> one
>>> >>>>>>> that
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> is about 10 years old. ANd a very nice label on that
>>> >>>> bottle.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> /Loa
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2018-01-18 06:14, Jeff Tantsura wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> How about Berliner Weisse?
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeff
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> *From: *BIER <[email-masked]> on behalf of Tony
>>> >>>>>>> Przygienda
>>> >>>>>>>>> <
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email-masked]>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> *Date: *Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 08:25
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> *To: *Stig Venaas <[email-masked]>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> *Cc: *Greg Mirsky <[email-masked]>, BIER WG <
>>> >>>>>>> [email-masked]
>>> >>>>>>>>>> ,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Toerless Eckert <[email-masked]>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [Bier] BIER Ethertype assigned
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Listening ... Would have to be pilsner ... Guiness on
>>> >>>> black
>>> >>>>>>>>> T-shirt is
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> probably not viable ;-)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On the other hand, given we have ladies in the group and
>>> >>>>>>> probably
>>> >>>>>>>>> no
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> aspiration to be a deaf punk band or something I'd tend to
>>> >>>>>>> hold to
>>> >>>>>>>>> a
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> lighter color albeit we could go for a black font (font
>>> >>>>>>> without
>>> >>>>>>>>> sword
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> points though ;-)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 8:13 AM, Stig Venaas <
>>> >>>> [email-masked]
>>> >>>>>>>>> <mailto:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email-masked]>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>   Great! How about a black shirt with kind of beer
>>> >>>> colored
>>> >>>>>>>>> text/logo?
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>   Stig
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>   On Jan 15, 2018 17:17, "Greg Mirsky" <
>>> >>>>>>> [email-masked]
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>   <mailto:[email-masked]>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>       Hi Tony, et. al.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>       Firstly, congratulations!
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>       Secondly, happy New Year and the best wishes to
>>> >>>> All!
>>> >>>>>>> (BTW,
>>> >>>>>>>>> do
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>       you know that Russians celebrate the Old New Year
>>> >>>>>>> January
>>> >>>>>>>>> 13th.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>       So, happy Old New Year too.)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>       Now, about that design. Like imagery but not
>>> >>>> colors.
>>> >>>>>>> Can we
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> have
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>       the back in Union Jack colors? That said, sign me
>>> >>>> in
>>> >>>>>>> for 1.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>       Regards,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>       Greg
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>       On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 2:35 PM, Tony Przygienda
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>       <[email-masked] <mailto:[email-masked]
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>           Waiting for more ideas & chime ups ;-)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>           I tend to go with the company I suggested and
>>> >>>> will
>>> >>>>>>>>> modify
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>           design to people's liking ... Will be group
>>> >>>> order,
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> depending
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>           on number (I think min is 30) it's about 12$
>>> >>>> each
>>> >>>>>>> ...
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>           will post in a bit ...
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>           --- tony
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>           On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 2:30 PM, Toerless
>>> >>>> Eckert
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>           <[email-masked] <mailto:[email-masked]>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>               There is a german brewery called
>>> >>>> "bitburger"
>>> >>>>>>> and
>>> >>>>>>>>> they
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>               have a range of
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>               promotional articles including t-shirts
>>> >>>> and
>>> >>>>>>>>> backpacks
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>               with their slogan
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>               on it: "Bitte ein Bit" - "one bit please":
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>               https://shop.bitburger.de/
>>> >>>>>>>>> Basic-Line/Herren-T-Shirt-
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Kenner-M-oxid.html
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>               So the quick option is to get one of those
>>> >>>>>>> t-shirts
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>               cross out the "ein" (one)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>               and write "256" over it. It will become
>>> >>>> more
>>> >>>>>>>>> expensive
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>               though, when you go into
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>               a pub with that t-shirt and ask "who
>>> >>>> wants to
>>> >>>>>>> be my
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> BFER
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ?".
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>               Oh well,... i digress.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>               +1 for t-shirt. Any design is fine for me.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>               Custom beer coasters could be interesting
>>> >>>> too
>>> >>>>>>> given
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> some
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>               good design idea.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>               Cheers
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>                   toerles
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>               On Mon, Jan 08, 2018 at 09:09:49AM -0800,
>>> >>>> Tony
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>               Przygienda wrote:
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I guess it's T-shirts time ;-)  I
>>> >>>> really
>>> >>>>>>>>> wanted
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> it
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>               to be  B336 or B33B
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but that will do ;-)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No one told me there was a specific
>>> >>>> value
>>> >>>>>>>>> request
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>               ;-)  T-shirts are always
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fun; but since BIER is an overlay
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for carrying traffic, maybe a
>>> >>>> backpack
>>> >>>>>>> would
>>> >>>>>>>>> be
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>               more appropriate?
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I didn't dare and given how hard they
>>> >>>> are
>>> >>>>>>> to get
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>               great we got one
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> without much friction ;-)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Group order open, if I get 30 together,
>>> >>>>>>> I'll
>>> >>>>>>>>> order
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>               and bring along to
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> London ...
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> something like this? comments ? If
>>> >>>>>>> interest, I
>>> >>>>>>>>> open
>>> >>>>>>>>>>> a
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>               group order ...
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Didn't we request one for downstream
>>> >>>>>>>>> assigned and
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>               one upstream assigned
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or did I get mixed up ?
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No - we just requested one for the
>>> >>>>>>> Ethernet
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>               encapsulation version.  There
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is no upstream and downstream
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assigned for the BIFT-id values.
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I meant equivalent of
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0x8847 and 0x8848
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> but so far we have only downstream
>>> >>>>>>> signalling
>>> >>>>>>>>> and no
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>               proposals of upstream
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> one so we probably shouldn't push our
>>> >>>> luck
>>> >>>>>>> ;-)
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- tony
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ______________________________
>>> >>>>>>> _________________
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>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email-masked] <mailto:[email-masked]>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/
>>> >>>> listinfo/bier
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>               --
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>               ---
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>               [email-masked] <mailto:[email-masked]>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>           ______________________________
>>> >>>> _________________
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>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>           [email-masked] <mailto:[email-masked]>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>           https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bier
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>       _______________________________________________
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>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>       https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bier
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>> >>>> mailing
>>> >>>>>>> list
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>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Loa Andersson                        email: [email-masked]
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Senior MPLS Expert
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>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email-masked]
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From: Tony Przygienda <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 07:38:00 +0000

Brought T-shirts with me (it was overweight, grrh ;-)  I'll be there 15
mins before the sessions. Would appreciate about ~15$ worth of currency per
piece in exchange. More important, wear them to the session ;-) ...  If not
there to pick them up, enough people seemed like being on standby to get
any spares ;-)

--- tony

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From: Greg Mirsky <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2018 07:52:35 +0000

Registration desk?

Regards, Greg

On Tue, Mar 20, 2018, 7:38 AM Tony Przygienda <[email-masked]> wrote:

>> https://www.customink.com/proof_approvals/4546895?token=289e6c62-1796-11e8-ace8-0a92749b9112#proof_0_closeup
>>
>>>> https://www.customink.com/designs/bier2/tst0-00bb-4gxq/share?pc=EMAIL-40778&utm_campaign=shared%20design&utm_source=share%20link&utm_medium=shared%20design&utm_content=shared%20desktop
>>>>
>>>> >>>>  Looks as if we have Greg Small, Greg Medium, and 2 Greg Large,
>>>> but who
>>>> >>>> is who... ;)
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Cheers
>>>> >>>>   Toerless
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 2:22 PM, Toerless Eckert <
>>>> [email-masked]>
>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> T-'s online are fast and cheap.. We could each just steal
>>>> the art
>>>> >>>>>>> and make
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> *From: *Tim Chown <[email-masked]..uk
>>>> <[email-masked]>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email-masked]>, Jeff Tantsura <jefftant.ietf@gmail..com
>>>> <[email-masked]>>,
>>>> >>>> Loa
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Andersson <
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email-masked]>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> That would be nice too..
>>>> <https://www..beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/113/782/>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>               +1 for t-shirt. Any design is fine for me..
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> <https://www..ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bier>
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>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> <https://www..ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bier>
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