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Delivery-date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 13:47:22 +0000
Reply-To: "Adrian Farrel" <[email-masked]>
From: "Adrian Farrel" <[email-masked]>
To: "LE ROUX Jean-Louis RD-CORE-LAN" <[email-masked]>, <[email-masked]>
Subject: Last Call Endeded on draft-ietf-ccamp-te-node-cap-03.txt 
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 13:42:39 -0000
Organization: Old Dog Consulting

This concludes the additional last call on this I-D.

Jean-Louis has already submitted an update to cover the comments made. I 
will check this and forward the I-D to the ADs.

Adrian
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Adrian Farrel" <[email-masked]>
To: "LE ROUX Jean-Louis RD-CORE-LAN" <[email-masked]>; 
<[email-masked]>
Cc: <[email-masked]>; <[email-masked]>
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 11:32 AM
Subject: Further short CCAMP WG Last Call on 
draft-ietf-ccamp-te-node-cap-03.txt

> Hi,
>
> Sorry, I fumbled this.
>
> Jean-Louis made some significant changes after we completed the working 
> group last call. He took on board the comments from CCAMP, ISIS and OSPF 
> and made the changes that he describes below.
>
> Since one of these changes is relatively substantial (the conflation of 
> two bit-fields into one) I want to give everyone a chance to comment 
> before we go forward to the ADs.
>
> So, there is a one week last call running on the CCAMP mailing list until 
> noon GMT 22nd December 2006.
>
> Thanks,
> Adrian
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "LE ROUX Jean-Louis RD-CORE-LAN" 
> <[email-masked]>
> To: <[email-masked]>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 7:25 AM
> Subject: RE: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-ccamp-te-node-cap-03.txt
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> This new version accounts for comments received during the CCAMP ISIS and 
> OSPF WG last call.
>
> Here are the main changes:
>
> -The data plane and control plane cap sub-TLVs have been removed. The 
> capabilities are now carried directly with the TE Node Capability 
> Descriptor TLV, and there is a single registry for both control and data 
> plane capabilities.
>
> -In section 5:
> "other occurences MUST be discarded" replaced by "other occurrences MUST 
> be ignored"
>
> -In section 6:
> "a router not supporting the TE Node Capability Descriptor TLV MUST just 
> silently ignore the TLV"
> Replaced by: "a router not supporting the TE Node Capability Descriptor 
> TLV will just silently ignore the TLV"
>
> Regards,
>
> JL
>
>> -----Message d'origine-----
>> De : [email-masked]
>> [mailto:[email-masked]] De la part de
>> [email-masked]
>> Envoy� : mardi 21 novembre 2006 21:50
>> � : [email-masked]
>> Cc : [email-masked]
>> Objet : I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-ccamp-te-node-cap-03.txt
>>
>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line
>> Internet-Drafts directories.
>> This draft is a work item of the Common Control and
>> Measurement Plane Working Group of the IETF.
>>
>> Title : IGP Routing Protocol Extensions for
>> Discovery of Traffic Engineering  Node Capabilities
>> Author(s) : J. Vasseur, et al.
>> Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-te-node-cap-03.txt
>> Pages : 13
>> Date : 2006-11-21
>>
>> It is highly desired in several cases, to take into account Traffic
>>    Engineering (TE) node capabilities during Multi Protocol Label
>>    Switching (MPLS) and Generalized MPLS (GMPLS) Traffic Engineered
>>    Label Switched Path (TE-LSP)  selection, such as for instance the
>>    capability to act as a branch Label Switching Router (LSR) of a
>>    Point-To-MultiPoint (P2MP) LSP. This requires advertising these
>>    capabilities within the Interior Gateway Protocol (IGP). For that
>>    purpose, this document specifies Open Shortest Path First
>> (OSPF) and
>>    Intermediate System-Intermediate System (IS-IS) traffic
>> engineering
>>    extensions for the advertisement of control plane and data plane
>>    traffic engineering node capabilities.
>>
>> A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
>> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-te-node-cap-03.txt
>
>
>
>
>
> 

Delivery-date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 13:47:15 +0000
Reply-To: "Adrian Farrel" <[email-masked]>
From: "Adrian Farrel" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Cc: <[email-masked]>, "Ross Callon" <[email-masked]>, "Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: CCAMP Last call on draft-deoliveira-diff-te-preemption-06.txt 
Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 13:45:13 -0000
Organization: Old Dog Consulting

The CCAMP last call on this I-D has concluded.
A short comment was received from Dimitry.

If Jaudelice could send an answer we can assess whether any update to the 
I-D is needed, and then Ross can take the I-D forward.

Thanks,
Adrian
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Adrian Farrel" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Cc: <[email-masked]>; "Ross Callon" <[email-masked]>; 
"Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS" <[email-masked]>; <[email-masked]>
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: CCAMP Last call on draft-deoliveira-diff-te-preemption-06.txt

> Hi,
>
> I have been explicitly asked to lengthen this last call so as to allow 
> time for a review.
>
> Unusual, but not unreasonable.
>
> The last call is extended to noon on Sunday 17th December.
>
> Thanks,
> Adrian
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Adrian Farrel" <[email-masked]>
> To: <[email-masked]>
> Cc: <[email-masked]>; "Ross Callon" <[email-masked]>; 
> "Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS" <[email-masked]>; <[email-masked]>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 11:06 AM
> Subject: CCAMP Last call on draft-deoliveira-diff-te-preemption-06.txt
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> This draft has been developed independently and has recently been brought 
>> to the IESG for advancement as an individual submission to become an 
>> Informational RFC. I have done a first-level review and this latest 
>> revision includes updates to reflect my comments.
>>
>> Since the material here concerns preemption and the suggested ways to 
>> operate an MPLS-TE or GMPLS network, we are running a quick last call on 
>> the CCAMP mailing list to ensure that no-one has any objections.
>>
>> Please send your comments to the CCAMP list no later than noon GMT on 
>> 13th December 2006.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Adrian
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: <[email-masked]>
>> To: <[email-masked]>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 8:50 PM
>> Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-deoliveira-diff-te-preemption-06.txt
>>
>>
>>>A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
>>> directories.
>>>
>>>
>>> Title : LSP Preemption Policies for MPLS Traffic Engineering
>>> Author(s) : J. de Oliveira, et al.
>>> Filename : draft-deoliveira-diff-te-preemption-06.txt
>>> Pages : 19
>>> Date : 2006-11-28
>>>
>>> When the establishment of a higher priority (Traffic Engineering
>>>   Label Switched Path) TE LSP requires the preemption of a set of lower
>>>   priority TE LSPs, a node has to make a local decision to select which
>>>
>>>   TE LSPs will be preempted.  The preempted LSPs are then rerouted by
>>>   their respective Head-end Label Switch Router (LSR).  This document
>>>   presents a flexible policy that can be used to achieve different
>>>   objectives: preempt the lowest priority LSPs; preempt the minimum
>>>   number of LSPs; preempt the set of TE LSPs that provide the closest
>>>   amount of bandwidth to the required bandwidth for the preempting TE
>>>   LSPs (to minimize bandwidth wastage); preempt the LSPs that will have
>>>   the maximum chance to get rerouted.  Simulation results are given and
>>>   a comparison among several different policies, with respect to
>>>   preemption cascading, number of preempted LSPs, priority, wasted
>>>   bandwidth and blocking probability is also included.
>>>
>>> A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
>>> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-deoliveira-diff-te-preemption-06.txt
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
> 

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	Title		: Analysis of Inter-domain Label Switched Path (LSP) Recovery 
	Author(s)	: T. Takeda, et al.
	Filename	: draft-ietf-ccamp-inter-domain-recovery-analysis-00.txt
	Pages		: 21
	Date		: 2006-12-22
	
   This document analyzes various schemes to realize Multiprotocol Label 
   Switching (MPLS) and Generalized MPLS (GMPLS) Label Switched Path 
   (LSP) recovery in multi-domain networks based on the existing 
   framework for multi-domain LSPs. 
    
   The main focus for this document is on establishing end-to-end 
   diverse Traffic Engineering (TE) LSPs in multi-domain networks. It 
   presents various diverse LSP setup schemes based on existing 
   functional elements. 

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	Title		: Interworking Requirements to Support operation of MPLS-TE over GMPLS networks 
	Author(s)	: K. Kumaki, et al.
	Filename	: draft-ietf-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-interwork-reqts-00.txt
	Pages		: 12
	Date		: 2006-12-21
	
   This document describes a framework and Service Provider requirements 
   for operating Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS) traffic 
   engineering (TE) networks over Generalized MPLS (GMPLS) networks. 
    
   Operation of an MPLS-TE network as a client network to a GMPLS 
   network has enhanced operational capabilities than provided by a co-
   existent protocol model (ships in the night). 
    
   The GMPLS network may be a packet or a non-packet network, and may 
   itself be a multi-layer network supporting both packet and non-packet 
   technologies. A MPLS-TE Label Switched Path (LSP) originates and 
   terminates on an MPLS Label Switching Router (LSR). The GMPLS network 
   provides transparent transport for the end-to-end MPLS-TE LSP. 
    
   Specification of solutions is out of scope for this document. 

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	Title		: IGP Routing Protocol Extensions for Discovery of Traffic Engineering Node Capabilities
	Author(s)	: J. Vasseur, et al.
	Filename	: draft-ietf-ccamp-te-node-cap-04.txt
	Pages		: 13
	Date		: 2006-12-19
	
It is highly desired in several cases, to take into account Traffic 
   Engineering (TE) node capabilities during Multi Protocol Label 
   Switching (MPLS) and Generalized MPLS (GMPLS) Traffic Engineered 
   Label Switched Path (TE-LSP)  selection, such as for instance the 
   capability to act as a branch Label Switching Router (LSR) of a 
   Point-To-MultiPoint (P2MP) LSP. This requires advertising these 
   capabilities within the Interior Gateway Protocol (IGP). For that 
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   Intermediate System-Intermediate System (IS-IS) traffic engineering 
   extensions for the advertisement of control plane and data plane 
   traffic engineering node capabilities.

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	Title		: Requirements for the Conversion Between 
                          Permanent Connections and Switched 
                          Connections in a Generalized Multiprotocol Label Switching (GMPLS) Network 
	Author(s)	: D. Caviglia, et al.
	Filename	: draft-ietf-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-00.txt
	Pages		: 10
	Date		: 2006-12-19
	
   From a Carrier perspective, the possibility of turning a Permanent 
   Connection (PC) into a Soft Permanent Connection (SPC) and vice 
   versa, without actually affecting Data Plane traffic being carried 
   over it, is a valuable option. In other terms, such operation can be 
   seen as a way of transferring the ownership and control of an 
   existing and in-use Data Plane connection between the Management 
   Plane and the Control Plane, leaving its Data Plane state untouched.

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Subject: RE: Polling for new WG IDs
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 15:17:49 -0600
From: "Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>

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Hi,
=20
Thanks to all for responding.
=20
On (1), we have reasonable consensus but some concerns on complexity and
potential over-engineering. We'll accept as a WG document, but ask the
authors (and WG) to take great care to look for simple solutions, and
consider that failure cases simply fall back to out-of-service upgrades.
Authors, please upload as a WG document. CCAMP, please participate to
progress and ensure your concerns are addressed.
=20
On (2), we have good consensus to make a WG document. Authors, please
upload as a WG document. Also, please work with us (Chairs) and Julien
to ensure the positioning is clear.
=20
On (3), we have good consensus to make a WG document. Authors, please
upload as a WG document.
=20
Thanks,
Deborah and Adrian

________________________________

From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]] On
Behalf Of Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 4:23 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Polling for new WG IDs

Hi,
=20
As discussed in San Diego, we need to poll for a couple of new WG
drafts:
=20
1.
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-
04.txt
=20
2.
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-interw
ork-reqts-02.txt
=20
3.
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-ccamp-inter-domain-reco
very-analysis-01.txt
=20
Please send yes or no for these IDs.
=20
Reasons and opinions are also welcome.
=20
Thanks,
Deborah and Adrian

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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D841365720-18122006><FONT =
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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D841365720-18122006><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D841365720-18122006><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Thanks to&nbsp;all&nbsp;for =
responding.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D841365720-18122006><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D841365720-18122006><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>On (1), we have reasonable consensus but some =
concerns on=20
complexity and potential over-engineering. We'll accept as a WG =
document, but=20
ask the authors (and WG)&nbsp;to take great care to look for simple =
solutions,=20
and consider that failure cases simply fall back to out-of-service =
upgrades.=20
Authors, please upload as a WG document. CCAMP, please participate to =
progress=20
and ensure your concerns are addressed.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D841365720-18122006><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D841365720-18122006><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>On (2), we have good consensus to make a WG =
document.=20
Authors, please upload as a WG document. Also, please work with us =
(Chairs) and=20
Julien to ensure the positioning is clear.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D841365720-18122006><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D841365720-18122006><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>On (3), we have good consensus to make a WG =
document.=20
Authors, please upload as a WG document.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D841365720-18122006><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D841365720-18122006><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Thanks,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D841365720-18122006><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Deborah and Adrian</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft>
<HR tabIndex=3D-1>
<FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> [email-masked]=20
[mailto:[email-masked]] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Brungard, Deborah =
A,=20
ALABS<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 30, 2006 4:23 PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
[email-masked]<BR><B>Subject:</B> Polling for new WG=20
IDs<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D213491321-30112006>Hi,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D213491321-30112006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D213491321-30112006>As =
discussed in San=20
Diego, we need to poll for a couple of new WG =
drafts:</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D213491321-30112006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D213491321-30112006>1. <A=20
href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-s=
c-reqs-04.txt">http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-p=
c-and-sc-reqs-04.txt</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D213491321-30112006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D213491321-30112006>2. <A=20
href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki-ccamp-mpls-gmpls=
-interwork-reqts-02.txt">http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki=
-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-interwork-reqts-02.txt</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D213491321-30112006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D213491321-30112006>3. <A=20
href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-ccamp-inter-doma=
in-recovery-analysis-01.txt">http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ta=
keda-ccamp-inter-domain-recovery-analysis-01.txt</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D213491321-30112006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D213491321-30112006>Please =
send yes or=20
no for these IDs.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D213491321-30112006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D213491321-30112006>Reasons and opinions=20
are also welcome.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D213491321-30112006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D213491321-30112006>Thanks,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D213491321-30112006>Deborah and=20
Adrian</SPAN></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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Delivery-date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 21:20:16 +0000
Content-class: urn:content-classes:message
Subject: RE: Polling for new WG IDs
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 15:17:49 -0600
From: "Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>

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Hi,
=20
Thanks to all for responding.
=20
On (1), we have reasonable consensus but some concerns on complexity and
potential over-engineering. We'll accept as a WG document, but ask the
authors (and WG) to take great care to look for simple solutions, and
consider that failure cases simply fall back to out-of-service upgrades.
Authors, please upload as a WG document. CCAMP, please participate to
progress and ensure your concerns are addressed.
=20
On (2), we have good consensus to make a WG document. Authors, please
upload as a WG document. Also, please work with us (Chairs) and Julien
to ensure the positioning is clear.
=20
On (3), we have good consensus to make a WG document. Authors, please
upload as a WG document.
=20
Thanks,
Deborah and Adrian

________________________________

From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]] On
Behalf Of Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 4:23 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Polling for new WG IDs

Hi,
=20
As discussed in San Diego, we need to poll for a couple of new WG
drafts:
=20
1.
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-
04.txt
=20
2.
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-interw
ork-reqts-02.txt
=20
3.
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-ccamp-inter-domain-reco
very-analysis-01.txt
=20
Please send yes or no for these IDs.
=20
Reasons and opinions are also welcome.
=20
Thanks,
Deborah and Adrian

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color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D841365720-18122006><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
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responding.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D841365720-18122006><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D841365720-18122006><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>On (1), we have reasonable consensus but some =
concerns on=20
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document, but=20
ask the authors (and WG)&nbsp;to take great care to look for simple =
solutions,=20
and consider that failure cases simply fall back to out-of-service =
upgrades.=20
Authors, please upload as a WG document. CCAMP, please participate to =
progress=20
and ensure your concerns are addressed.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D841365720-18122006><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D841365720-18122006><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>On (2), we have good consensus to make a WG =
document.=20
Authors, please upload as a WG document. Also, please work with us =
(Chairs) and=20
Julien to ensure the positioning is clear.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D841365720-18122006><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D841365720-18122006><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>On (3), we have good consensus to make a WG =
document.=20
Authors, please upload as a WG document.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D841365720-18122006><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D841365720-18122006><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Thanks,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D841365720-18122006><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Deborah and Adrian</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
<DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader lang=3Den-us dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft>
<HR tabIndex=3D-1>
<FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> [email-masked]=20
[mailto:[email-masked]] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Brungard, Deborah =
A,=20
ALABS<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 30, 2006 4:23 PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
[email-masked]<BR><B>Subject:</B> Polling for new WG=20
IDs<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D213491321-30112006>Hi,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D213491321-30112006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D213491321-30112006>As =
discussed in San=20
Diego, we need to poll for a couple of new WG =
drafts:</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D213491321-30112006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D213491321-30112006>1. <A=20
href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-s=
c-reqs-04.txt">http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-p=
c-and-sc-reqs-04.txt</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D213491321-30112006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D213491321-30112006>2. <A=20
href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki-ccamp-mpls-gmpls=
-interwork-reqts-02.txt">http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki=
-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-interwork-reqts-02.txt</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D213491321-30112006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D213491321-30112006>3. <A=20
href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-ccamp-inter-doma=
in-recovery-analysis-01.txt">http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ta=
keda-ccamp-inter-domain-recovery-analysis-01.txt</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D213491321-30112006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D213491321-30112006>Please =
send yes or=20
no for these IDs.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D213491321-30112006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D213491321-30112006>Reasons and opinions=20
are also welcome.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D213491321-30112006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D213491321-30112006>Thanks,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D213491321-30112006>Deborah and=20
Adrian</SPAN></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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Delivery-date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 17:42:12 +0000
Content-class: urn:content-classes:message
Subject: RE: [Isis-wg] Further short CCAMP WG Last Call ondraft-ietf-ccamp-te-node-cap-03.txt 
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 18:39:42 +0100
From: "LE ROUX Jean-Louis RD-CORE-LAN" <[email-masked]>
To: "Les Ginsberg \(ginsberg\)" <[email-masked]>, <[email-masked]>, <[email-masked]>
Cc: <[email-masked]>, <[email-masked]>

Hi Lee

We've just submitted v04 that accounts for your comments.

Thanks,

JL=20

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) [mailto:[email-masked]]=20
> Envoy=E9 : vendredi 15 d=E9cembre 2006 19:23
> =C0 : [email-masked]; LE ROUX Jean-Louis RD-CORE-LAN;=20
> [email-masked]
> Cc : [email-masked]; [email-masked]
> Objet : RE: [Isis-wg] Further short CCAMP WG Last Call=20
> ondraft-ietf-ccamp-te-node-cap-03.txt=20
>=20
> 1)The use of TLV and sub-TLV is not consistent throughout the=20
> document regarding IS-IS. For example, in the second and=20
> third paragraphs of Section 4.2:
>=20
>    The IS-IS TE Node Capability Descriptor TLV is carried=20
> within an IS-
>    IS CAPABILITY TLV which is defined in [OSPF-CAP].
>=20
>    The format of the IS-IS TE Node Capability sub-TLV is the=20
> same as the=20
>    TLV format used by the Traffic Engineering Extensions to IS-IS=20
>    [RFC3784]. That is, the TLV is composed of 1 octet for the type, 1=20
>    octet specifying the TLV length and a value field.
>=20
> "TLV" should be "sub-TLV" in all cases except when referring=20
> to the IS-IS CAPABILITY TLV.
> Also [OSPF-CAP] should be [IS-IS-CAP]
>=20
> Similar changes needed in Section 5.2 and some other places.
>=20
> 2)In Section 5.2:
>=20
>    The TE Node Capability Descriptor TLV is OPTIONAL and MUST=20
> NOT appear=20
>    more than once in an ISIS Router Capability TLV. If a TE Node=20
>    Capability Descriptor TLV appears more than once in an ISIS=20
>    Capability TLV, only the first occurrence MUST be processed, other=20
>    occurrences MUST be ignored.
>=20
> I would prefer that the second sentence be omitted - for=20
> reasons that have been discussed in the context of the PCE=20
> draft - I have repeated the relevant comments here:
>=20
> <snip>
> In cases where a TLV may move from one LSP fragment to=20
> another (for example because of the addition of information=20
> which exceeds the carrying capacity of the original LSP=20
> fragment) a router may have multiple copies of the same TLV=20
> as a transient condition. It is impossible to know which of=20
> the copies is newer and therefore impossible to=20
> deterministically decide which is the first instance of a=20
> subTLV. So it is better to leave the behavior in this case as=20
> undefined.
> <end snip>
>=20
>    Les
>=20
>=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Adrian Farrel [mailto:[email-masked]]
> > Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 3:33 AM
> > To: LE ROUX Jean-Louis RD-CORE-LAN; [email-masked]
> > Cc: [email-masked]; [email-masked]
> > Subject: [Isis-wg] Further short CCAMP WG Last Call=20
> > ondraft-ietf-ccamp-te- node-cap-03.txt
> >=20
> > Hi,
> >=20
> > Sorry, I fumbled this.
> >=20
> > Jean-Louis made some significant changes after we completed the=20
> > working group last call. He took on board the comments from CCAMP,=20
> > ISIS and OSPF and made the changes that he describes below.
> >=20
> > Since one of these changes is relatively substantial (the=20
> conflation=20
> > of two bit-fields into one) I want to give everyone a chance to=20
> > comment before we go forward to the ADs.
> >=20
> > So, there is a one week last call running on the CCAMP mailing list=20
> > until noon GMT 22nd December 2006.
> >=20
> > Thanks,
> > Adrian
> >=20
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "LE ROUX Jean-Louis RD-CORE-LAN" <jeanlouis.leroux@orange-=20
> > ftgroup.com>
> > To: <[email-masked]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 7:25 AM
> > Subject: RE: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-ccamp-te-node-cap-03.txt
> >=20
> >=20
> > Hi all,
> >=20
> > This new version accounts for comments received during the=20
> CCAMP ISIS=20
> > and OSPF WG last call.
> >=20
> > Here are the main changes:
> >=20
> > -The data plane and control plane cap sub-TLVs have been=20
> removed. The=20
> > capabilities are now carried directly with the TE Node Capability=20
> > Descriptor TLV, and there is a single registry for both control and=20
> > data plane capabilities.
> >=20
> > -In section 5:
> > "other occurences MUST be discarded" replaced by "other occurrences=20
> > MUST be ignored"
> >=20
> > -In section 6:
> > "a router not supporting the TE Node Capability Descriptor TLV MUST=20
> > just silently ignore the TLV"
> > Replaced by: "a router not supporting the TE Node Capability=20
> > Descriptor TLV will just silently ignore the TLV"
> >=20
> > Regards,
> >=20
> > JL
> >=20
> > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > De : [email-masked]
> > > [mailto:[email-masked]] De la part de=20
> > > [email-masked] Envoy=E9 : mardi 21 novembre 2006=20
> 21:50 =C0 :=20
> > > [email-masked] Cc : [email-masked] Objet : I-D=20
> > > ACTION:draft-ietf-ccamp-te-node-cap-03.txt
> > >
> > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line=20
> Internet-Drafts=20
> > > directories.
> > > This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement=20
> > > Plane Working Group of the IETF.
> > >
> > > Title : IGP Routing Protocol Extensions for Discovery of Traffic=20
> > > Engineering  Node Capabilities
> > > Author(s) : J. Vasseur, et al.
> > > Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-te-node-cap-03.txt
> > > Pages : 13
> > > Date : 2006-11-21
> > >
> > > It is highly desired in several cases, to take into=20
> account Traffic
> > >    Engineering (TE) node capabilities during Multi Protocol Label
> > >    Switching (MPLS) and Generalized MPLS (GMPLS) Traffic=20
> Engineered
> > >    Label Switched Path (TE-LSP)  selection, such as for=20
> instance the
> > >    capability to act as a branch Label Switching Router (LSR) of a
> > >    Point-To-MultiPoint (P2MP) LSP. This requires advertising these
> > >    capabilities within the Interior Gateway Protocol=20
> (IGP). For that
> > >    purpose, this document specifies Open Shortest Path First
> > > (OSPF) and
> > >    Intermediate System-Intermediate System (IS-IS) traffic=20
> > > engineering
> > >    extensions for the advertisement of control plane and=20
> data plane
> > >    traffic engineering node capabilities.
> > >
> > > A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
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> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-te-node-cap-03.
> > > txt
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Delivery-date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 08:55:35 +0000
To: "Adrian Farrel" <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked], "Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS" <[email-masked]>, [email-masked], [email-masked], [email-masked], "Ross Callon" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: CCAMP Last call on draft-deoliveira-diff-te-preemption-06.txt
From: [email-masked]
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 09:47:37 +0100

adrian - 

in HBlock case the average wasted bw is a factor 10 smaller than for any 
other scheme (without significantly lowering the worst case, still an 
order of 10)

the only noticeable difference with PN is exactly that one (which is 
induced by the possibility left to Hblock to have two selection depending 
on heavy vs normal loaded link) - hence it would be interesting to know 
the dependency on the min/max LSP bw and distribution (scenario 
dependancy) and have a similar PN approach (non-uniform selection)

thanks,
- d.

"Adrian Farrel" <[email-masked]>
Sent by: [email-masked]
14/12/2006 18:02
Please respond to "Adrian Farrel"
 
        To:     <[email-masked]>
        cc:     <[email-masked]>, "Ross Callon" 
<[email-masked]>, "Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS" <[email-masked]>, 
<[email-masked]>
        Subject:        Re: CCAMP Last call on 
draft-deoliveira-diff-te-preemption-06.txt

Hi,

I have been explicitly asked to lengthen this last call so as to allow 
time 
for a review.

Unusual, but not unreasonable.

The last call is extended to noon on Sunday 17th December.

Thanks,
Adrian
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Adrian Farrel" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Cc: <[email-masked]>; "Ross Callon" <[email-masked]>; 
"Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS" <[email-masked]>; <[email-masked]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 11:06 AM
Subject: CCAMP Last call on draft-deoliveira-diff-te-preemption-06.txt

> Hi,
>
> This draft has been developed independently and has recently been 
brought 
> to the IESG for advancement as an individual submission to become an 
> Informational RFC. I have done a first-level review and this latest 
> revision includes updates to reflect my comments.
>
> Since the material here concerns preemption and the suggested ways to 
> operate an MPLS-TE or GMPLS network, we are running a quick last call on 

> the CCAMP mailing list to ensure that no-one has any objections.
>
> Please send your comments to the CCAMP list no later than noon GMT on 
13th 
> December 2006.
>
> Thanks,
> Adrian
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <[email-masked]>
> To: <[email-masked]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 8:50 PM
> Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-deoliveira-diff-te-preemption-06.txt
>
>
>>A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
>> directories.
>>
>>
>> Title : LSP Preemption Policies for MPLS Traffic Engineering
>> Author(s) : J. de Oliveira, et al.
>> Filename : draft-deoliveira-diff-te-preemption-06.txt
>> Pages : 19
>> Date : 2006-11-28
>>
>> When the establishment of a higher priority (Traffic Engineering
>>   Label Switched Path) TE LSP requires the preemption of a set of lower
>>   priority TE LSPs, a node has to make a local decision to select which
>>
>>   TE LSPs will be preempted.  The preempted LSPs are then rerouted by
>>   their respective Head-end Label Switch Router (LSR).  This document
>>   presents a flexible policy that can be used to achieve different
>>   objectives: preempt the lowest priority LSPs; preempt the minimum
>>   number of LSPs; preempt the set of TE LSPs that provide the closest
>>   amount of bandwidth to the required bandwidth for the preempting TE
>>   LSPs (to minimize bandwidth wastage); preempt the LSPs that will have
>>   the maximum chance to get rerouted.  Simulation results are given and
>>   a comparison among several different policies, with respect to
>>   preemption cascading, number of preempted LSPs, priority, wasted
>>   bandwidth and blocking probability is also included.
>>
>> A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
>> 
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-deoliveira-diff-te-preemption-06.txt

Delivery-date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 11:38:11 +0000
Reply-To: "Adrian Farrel" <[email-masked]>
From: "Adrian Farrel" <[email-masked]>
To: "LE ROUX Jean-Louis RD-CORE-LAN" <[email-masked]>, <[email-masked]>
Cc: <[email-masked]>, <[email-masked]>
Subject: Further short CCAMP WG Last Call on draft-ietf-ccamp-te-node-cap-03.txt 
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 11:32:48 -0000
Organization: Old Dog Consulting

Hi,

Sorry, I fumbled this.

Jean-Louis made some significant changes after we completed the working 
group last call. He took on board the comments from CCAMP, ISIS and OSPF and 
made the changes that he describes below.

Since one of these changes is relatively substantial (the conflation of two 
bit-fields into one) I want to give everyone a chance to comment before we 
go forward to the ADs.

So, there is a one week last call running on the CCAMP mailing list until 
noon GMT 22nd December 2006.

Thanks,
Adrian

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "LE ROUX Jean-Louis RD-CORE-LAN" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2006 7:25 AM
Subject: RE: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-ccamp-te-node-cap-03.txt

Hi all,

This new version accounts for comments received during the CCAMP ISIS and 
OSPF WG last call.

Here are the main changes:

-The data plane and control plane cap sub-TLVs have been removed. The 
capabilities are now carried directly with the TE Node Capability Descriptor 
TLV, and there is a single registry for both control and data plane 
capabilities.

-In section 5:
"other occurences MUST be discarded" replaced by "other occurrences MUST be 
ignored"

-In section 6:
"a router not supporting the TE Node Capability Descriptor TLV MUST just 
silently ignore the TLV"
Replaced by: "a router not supporting the TE Node Capability Descriptor TLV 
will just silently ignore the TLV"

Regards,

JL

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : [email-masked]
> [mailto:[email-masked]] De la part de
> [email-masked]
> Envoy� : mardi 21 novembre 2006 21:50
> � : [email-masked]
> Cc : [email-masked]
> Objet : I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-ccamp-te-node-cap-03.txt
>
> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line
> Internet-Drafts directories.
> This draft is a work item of the Common Control and
> Measurement Plane Working Group of the IETF.
>
> Title : IGP Routing Protocol Extensions for
> Discovery of Traffic Engineering  Node Capabilities
> Author(s) : J. Vasseur, et al.
> Filename : draft-ietf-ccamp-te-node-cap-03.txt
> Pages : 13
> Date : 2006-11-21
>
> It is highly desired in several cases, to take into account Traffic
>    Engineering (TE) node capabilities during Multi Protocol Label
>    Switching (MPLS) and Generalized MPLS (GMPLS) Traffic Engineered
>    Label Switched Path (TE-LSP)  selection, such as for instance the
>    capability to act as a branch Label Switching Router (LSR) of a
>    Point-To-MultiPoint (P2MP) LSP. This requires advertising these
>    capabilities within the Interior Gateway Protocol (IGP). For that
>    purpose, this document specifies Open Shortest Path First
> (OSPF) and
>    Intermediate System-Intermediate System (IS-IS) traffic
> engineering
>    extensions for the advertisement of control plane and data plane
>    traffic engineering node capabilities.
>
> A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ccamp-te-node-cap-03.txt

Delivery-date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 17:54:09 +0000
Reply-To: "Adrian Farrel" <[email-masked]>
From: "Adrian Farrel" <[email-masked]>
To: "Dan Li" <[email-masked]>, <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LCAS/VCAT
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 16:46:01 -0000
Organization: Old Dog Consulting

Hi Dan,

> I am interested in this work and think it's a useful functionality,
> but also have some questions on this draft:
>
> 1) In section 3.2, four scenarios have been described. Is
> there any requirement for the VCAT/LCAS capabilities
> for each scenario? or there is no such relationship between
> the scenarios and the VCAT/LCAS capabilities?

I think that is a reasonable question for investigation and maybe for
documentation.

But I note that the authors are stating that all four scenarios SHOULD be
supported, so I don't suppose it will make much difference if we assign
smaller requirements to the different scenarios as we will still need to
satisfy all of the requirements.

So, if there is an easy way for the authors to show which requirements
belong to which scenarios, that would be helpful, but I don't think such a
change is essential for the document to progress.

> 2) In section 4.2, for diversely routed VCG, what I understand
> is separately setup a set of LSPs which have same Ingress and
> Egress nodes, and associate these LSPs as a VCG at both
> Ingress and Egress nodes.  Could you elaborate how to
> manage/use the VCG? i.e. how to use the VCG to support the
> required service? I think at both ends of the VCG, the same
> signal adaptation should be required.

I think that the coordination of VCG members is largely outside the scope of
GMPLS (which is really a set of protocols). GMPLS does not deal with how
many LSPs are needed, and how to map the service to the LSPs. GMPLS does
care about how to setup the LSPs, and may be used to pass information for
coordinating and using those LSPs.

One mechanism that may be required is a way to exchange the interface and
adaptation capabilities, and the VCAT/LCAS potential of the interfaces on
the end-points of the LSPs. This would ensure (for example) that LSPs in a
single VCG were all terminated on interfaces that could allow the group
members to really be concatenated. Whether this is achieved through routing,
connection (i.e. LSP) signaling, or call signaling would be up for
discussion.

As currently expressed, this function is out of the scope of the current
I-D. It could be brought into scope (so that we have one I-D for the whole
package) or we could recognise that in many cases this function is not
needed (because of the topology of the network, the capabilities of the
hardware, and the pre-existing configuration tools) and let the main
signaling piece go forward, with the other elements added as a secondary I-D
if and when needed. We should certainly have some discussion on this (i.e.
when to do the work).

Cheers,
Adrian

Delivery-date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 17:32:29 +0000
Reply-To: "Adrian Farrel" <[email-masked]>
From: "Adrian Farrel" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Cc: <[email-masked]>, "Ross Callon" <[email-masked]>, "Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS" <[email-masked]>, <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: CCAMP Last call on draft-deoliveira-diff-te-preemption-06.txt 
Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 17:02:56 -0000
Organization: Old Dog Consulting

Hi,

I have been explicitly asked to lengthen this last call so as to allow time 
for a review.

Unusual, but not unreasonable.

The last call is extended to noon on Sunday 17th December.

Thanks,
Adrian
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Adrian Farrel" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Cc: <[email-masked]>; "Ross Callon" <[email-masked]>; 
"Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS" <[email-masked]>; <[email-masked]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 11:06 AM
Subject: CCAMP Last call on draft-deoliveira-diff-te-preemption-06.txt

> Hi,
>
> This draft has been developed independently and has recently been brought 
> to the IESG for advancement as an individual submission to become an 
> Informational RFC. I have done a first-level review and this latest 
> revision includes updates to reflect my comments.
>
> Since the material here concerns preemption and the suggested ways to 
> operate an MPLS-TE or GMPLS network, we are running a quick last call on 
> the CCAMP mailing list to ensure that no-one has any objections.
>
> Please send your comments to the CCAMP list no later than noon GMT on 13th 
> December 2006.
>
> Thanks,
> Adrian
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <[email-masked]>
> To: <[email-masked]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 8:50 PM
> Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-deoliveira-diff-te-preemption-06.txt
>
>
>>A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
>> directories.
>>
>>
>> Title : LSP Preemption Policies for MPLS Traffic Engineering
>> Author(s) : J. de Oliveira, et al.
>> Filename : draft-deoliveira-diff-te-preemption-06.txt
>> Pages : 19
>> Date : 2006-11-28
>>
>> When the establishment of a higher priority (Traffic Engineering
>>   Label Switched Path) TE LSP requires the preemption of a set of lower
>>   priority TE LSPs, a node has to make a local decision to select which
>>
>>   TE LSPs will be preempted.  The preempted LSPs are then rerouted by
>>   their respective Head-end Label Switch Router (LSR).  This document
>>   presents a flexible policy that can be used to achieve different
>>   objectives: preempt the lowest priority LSPs; preempt the minimum
>>   number of LSPs; preempt the set of TE LSPs that provide the closest
>>   amount of bandwidth to the required bandwidth for the preempting TE
>>   LSPs (to minimize bandwidth wastage); preempt the LSPs that will have
>>   the maximum chance to get rerouted.  Simulation results are given and
>>   a comparison among several different policies, with respect to
>>   preemption cascading, number of preempted LSPs, priority, wasted
>>   bandwidth and blocking probability is also included.
>>
>> A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
>> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-deoliveira-diff-te-preemption-06.txt
>
>
>
>
>
> 

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Subject:  RFC 4783 on GMPLS - Communication of Alarm Information
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A new Request for Comments is now available in online RFC libraries.

        RFC 4783

        Title:      GMPLS - Communication of Alarm 
                    Information 
        Author:     L. Berger, Ed.
        Status:     Standards Track
        Date:       December 2006
        Mailbox:    [email-masked]
        Pages:      19
        Characters: 42068
        Updates:    RFC3473
        See-Also:   

        I-D Tag:    draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-alarm-spec-06.txt

        URL:        http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc4783.txt

This document describes an extension to Generalized MPLS (Multi-Protocol 
Label Switching) signaling to support communication of alarm information. 
GMPLS signaling already supports the control of alarm reporting, but not 
the communication of alarm information.  This document presents both a
functional description and GMPLS-RSVP specifics of such an extension.
This document also proposes modification of the RSVP ERROR_SPEC object.

This document updates RFC 3473, "Generalized Multi-Protocol Label
Switching (GMPLS) Signaling Resource ReserVation Protocol-Traffic
Engineering (RSVP-TE) Extensions", through the addition of new,
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To: "Loa Andersson <loa" <[email-masked]>
Cc: "ccamp <ccamp" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Polling for new WG IDs
From: "Diego Caviglia" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 11:51:50 +0100

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Hi Loa,
             you are right first application will be for intra-domain 
inter-domain needs more study.

Regards

Diego

To:     Diego Caviglia <[email-masked]>
cc:     ccamp <[email-masked]> 

Subject:        Re: Polling for new WG IDs

Diego,

will you be at all able to decide whether another AS uses the cp or mp
to setup the connection? Wouldn't it be better to leave the inter-domain
aspects explicitly for further study.

/Loa

Diego Caviglia wrote:
> Hi Loa,
>              the ID is generic enough to be applied to intra and inter
> domian, of course in case you have inter domain with different NMS you 
need
> coordination among the different NMS.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Diego
> 
> 
> 
> Loa Andersson <[email-masked]>@ops.ietf.org on 12/12/2006 11.19.48
> 
> Sent by:    [email-masked]
> 
> 
> To:    raymond zhang <[email-masked]>
> cc:    "Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS" <[email-masked]>, 
[email-masked]
> 
> Subject:    Re: Polling for new WG IDs
> 
> All,
> 
> I support making 2 and 3 wg docs, and have a question on
> the first.
> 
> Is draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-04.txt intended for
> intra-domain only?
> 
> /Loa
> 
> raymond zhang wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> At 01:23 PM 11/30/2006, Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> As discussed in San Diego, we need to poll for a couple of new WG
> drafts:
>>> 1.
>>> <
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-04.txt
>> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-04.txt
> 
>>>
>>> 2.
>>>
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-interwork-reqts-02.txt
> 
>> Yes...
>>
>>> 3.
>>> <
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-ccamp-inter-domain-recovery-analysis-01.txt
>> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-ccamp-inter-domain-recovery-analysis-01.txt
> 
>>
>> Yes...
>>
>> Regards,
>> Raymond
>>
>>> Please send yes or no for these IDs.
>>>
>>> Reasons and opinions are also welcome.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Deborah and Adrian
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
> --
> Loa Andersson
> 
> Principal Networking Architect
> Acreo AB                           phone:  +46 8 632 77 14
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

-- 
Loa Andersson

Principal Networking Architect
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Isafjordsgatan 22                  mobile: +46 739 81 21 64
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<br><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman">Hi Loa,</font>
<br><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;you are right first application will be for intra-domain inter-domain needs more study.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=3 color=blue face="Times New Roman">Regards<br>
<br>
Diego</font>
<br>
<br>
<p><font size=1 color=#800080 face="sans-serif">To: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">Diego Caviglia &lt;[email-masked]&gt;</font>
<br><font size=1 color=#800080 face="sans-serif">cc: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">ccamp &lt;[email-masked]&gt;</font><font size=1 color=#800080 face="sans-serif"> </font>
<br>
<br><font size=1 color=#800080 face="sans-serif">Subject: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif">Re: Polling for new WG IDs</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="Courier New">Diego,<br>
<br>
will you be at all able to decide whether another AS uses the cp or mp<br>
to setup the connection? Wouldn't it be better to leave the inter-domain<br>
aspects explicitly for further study.<br>
<br>
/Loa<br>
<br>
Diego Caviglia wrote:<br>
&gt; Hi Loa,<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;the ID is generic enough to be applied to intra and inter<br>
&gt; domian, of course in case you have inter domain with different NMS you need<br>
&gt; coordination among the different NMS.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Regards<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Diego<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Loa Andersson &lt;[email-masked]&gt;@ops.ietf.org on 12/12/2006 11.19.48<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Sent by: &nbsp; &nbsp;[email-masked]<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; To: &nbsp; &nbsp;raymond zhang &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
&gt; cc: &nbsp; &nbsp;&quot;Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS&quot; &lt;[email-masked]&gt;, [email-masked]<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Subject: &nbsp; &nbsp;Re: Polling for new WG IDs<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; All,<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; I support making 2 and 3 wg docs, and have a question on<br>
&gt; the first.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Is draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-04.txt intended for<br>
&gt; intra-domain only?<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; /Loa<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; raymond zhang wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; Hi,<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; At 01:23 PM 11/30/2006, Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Hi,<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; As discussed in San Diego, we need to poll for a couple of new WG<br>
&gt; drafts:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; 1.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &lt;<br>
&gt; http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-04.txt<br>
&gt;&gt; http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-04.txt<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; 2.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-interwork-reqts-02.txt<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt; Yes...<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; 3.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; &lt;<br>
&gt; http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-ccamp-inter-domain-recovery-analysis-01.txt<br>
&gt;&gt; http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-ccamp-inter-domain-recovery-analysis-01.txt<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Yes...<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Regards,<br>
&gt;&gt; Raymond<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Please send yes or no for these IDs.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Reasons and opinions are also welcome.<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Thanks,<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; Deborah and Adrian<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; --<br>
&gt; Loa Andersson<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Principal Networking Architect<br>
&gt; Acreo AB &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; phone: &nbsp;+46 8 632 77 14<br>
&gt; Isafjordsgatan 22 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;mobile: +46 739 81 21 64<br>
&gt; Kista, Sweden &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;email: &nbsp;[email-masked]<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;[email-masked]<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; <br>
<br>
<br>
-- <br>
Loa Andersson<br>
<br>
Principal Networking Architect<br>
Acreo AB &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; phone: &nbsp;+46 8 632 77 14<br>
Isafjordsgatan 22 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;mobile: +46 739 81 21 64<br>
Kista, Sweden &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;email: &nbsp;[email-masked]<br>
 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; [email-masked]<br>
</font>
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Delivery-date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:49:55 +0000
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 11:49:02 +0100
From: Loa Andersson <[email-masked]>
Organization: Acreo AB
To: Diego Caviglia <[email-masked]>
CC: ccamp <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Polling for new WG IDs

Diego,

will you be at all able to decide whether another AS uses the cp or mp
to setup the connection? Wouldn't it be better to leave the inter-domain
aspects explicitly for further study.

/Loa

Diego Caviglia wrote:
> Hi Loa,
>              the ID is generic enough to be applied to intra and inter
> domian, of course in case you have inter domain with different NMS you need
> coordination among the different NMS.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Diego
> 
> 
> 
> Loa Andersson <[email-masked]>@ops.ietf.org on 12/12/2006 11.19.48
> 
> Sent by:    [email-masked]
> 
> 
> To:    raymond zhang <[email-masked]>
> cc:    "Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS" <[email-masked]>, [email-masked]
> 
> Subject:    Re: Polling for new WG IDs
> 
> All,
> 
> I support making 2 and 3 wg docs, and have a question on
> the first.
> 
> Is draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-04.txt intended for
> intra-domain only?
> 
> /Loa
> 
> raymond zhang wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> At 01:23 PM 11/30/2006, Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> As discussed in San Diego, we need to poll for a couple of new WG
> drafts:
>>> 1.
>>> <
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-04.txt
>> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-04.txt
> 
>>>
>>> 2.
>>>
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-interwork-reqts-02.txt
> 
>> Yes...
>>
>>> 3.
>>> <
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-ccamp-inter-domain-recovery-analysis-01.txt
>> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-ccamp-inter-domain-recovery-analysis-01.txt
> 
>>
>> Yes...
>>
>> Regards,
>> Raymond
>>
>>> Please send yes or no for these IDs.
>>>
>>> Reasons and opinions are also welcome.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Deborah and Adrian
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
> --
> Loa Andersson
> 
> Principal Networking Architect
> Acreo AB                           phone:  +46 8 632 77 14
> Isafjordsgatan 22                  mobile: +46 739 81 21 64
> Kista, Sweden                      email:  [email-masked]
>                                            [email-masked]
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

-- 
Loa Andersson

Principal Networking Architect
Acreo AB                           phone:  +46 8 632 77 14
Isafjordsgatan 22                  mobile: +46 739 81 21 64
Kista, Sweden                      email:  [email-masked]
                                           [email-masked]

Delivery-date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:26:52 +0000
Sensitivity: 
Subject: Re: Polling for new WG IDs
To: "Loa Andersson <loa" <[email-masked]>
Cc: "ccamp" <[email-masked]>
From: "Diego Caviglia" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 11:26:13 +0100

Hi Loa,
             the ID is generic enough to be applied to intra and inter
domian, of course in case you have inter domain with different NMS you need
coordination among the different NMS.

Regards

Diego

Loa Andersson <[email-masked]>@ops.ietf.org on 12/12/2006 11.19.48

Sent by:    [email-masked]

To:    raymond zhang <[email-masked]>
cc:    "Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS" <[email-masked]>, [email-masked]

Subject:    Re: Polling for new WG IDs

All,

I support making 2 and 3 wg docs, and have a question on
the first.

Is draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-04.txt intended for
intra-domain only?

/Loa

raymond zhang wrote:
> Hi,
>
> At 01:23 PM 11/30/2006, Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> As discussed in San Diego, we need to poll for a couple of new WG
drafts:
>> 1.
>> <
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-04.txt
>http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-04.txt

>> 2.
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-interwork-reqts-02.txt

> Yes...
>> 3.
>> <
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-ccamp-inter-domain-recovery-analysis-01.txt
>http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-ccamp-inter-domain-recovery-analysis-01.txt

>>
>
>
> Yes...
>
> Regards,
> Raymond
>
>>
>> Please send yes or no for these IDs.
>>
>> Reasons and opinions are also welcome.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Deborah and Adrian
>
>
>
>

--
Loa Andersson

Principal Networking Architect
Acreo AB                           phone:  +46 8 632 77 14
Isafjordsgatan 22                  mobile: +46 739 81 21 64
Kista, Sweden                      email:  [email-masked]
                                           [email-masked]

Delivery-date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:22:46 +0000
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 11:19:48 +0100
From: Loa Andersson <[email-masked]>
Organization: Acreo AB
To: raymond zhang <[email-masked]>
CC: "Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS" <[email-masked]>,  [email-masked]
Subject: Re: Polling for new WG IDs

All,

I support making 2 and 3 wg docs, and have a question on
the first.

Is draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-04.txt intended for
intra-domain only?

/Loa

raymond zhang wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> At 01:23 PM 11/30/2006, Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> As discussed in San Diego, we need to poll for a couple of new WG drafts:
>>
>> 1.
>> <http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-04.txt>http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-04.txt
>>
>>
>> 2.
>> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-interwork-reqts-02.txt
>>
> 
> Yes...
> 
>>
>> 3.
>> <http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-ccamp-inter-domain-recovery-analysis-01.txt>http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-ccamp-inter-domain-recovery-analysis-01.txt
>>
> 
> 
> Yes...
> 
> Regards,
> Raymond
> 
>>
>> Please send yes or no for these IDs.
>>
>> Reasons and opinions are also welcome.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Deborah and Adrian
> 
> 
> 
> 

-- 
Loa Andersson

Principal Networking Architect
Acreo AB                           phone:  +46 8 632 77 14
Isafjordsgatan 22                  mobile: +46 739 81 21 64
Kista, Sweden                      email:  [email-masked]
                                           [email-masked]

Delivery-date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 04:40:16 +0000
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 20:35:00 -0800
To: "Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS" <[email-masked]>, <[email-masked]>
From: raymond zhang <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Polling for new WG IDs

Hi,

At 01:23 PM 11/30/2006, Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS wrote:
>Hi,
>
>As discussed in San Diego, we need to poll for a couple of new WG drafts:
>
>1. 
><http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-04.txt>http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-04.txt
>
>2. 
>http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-interwork-reqts-02.txt

Yes...

>
>3. 
><http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-ccamp-inter-domain-recovery-analysis-01.txt>http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-ccamp-inter-domain-recovery-analysis-01.txt

Yes...

Regards,
Raymond

>
>Please send yes or no for these IDs.
>
>Reasons and opinions are also welcome.
>
>Thanks,
>Deborah and Adrian

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From: [email-masked]
Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-ccamp-automesh-03.txt 
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:50:01 -0500

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	Title		: Routing extensions for discovery of 
                          Multiprotocol (MPLS) Label Switch Router 
                          (LSR) Traffic Engineering (TE) mesh membership
	Author(s)	: J. Vasseur, et al.
	Filename	: draft-ietf-ccamp-automesh-03.txt
	Pages		: 16
	Date		: 2006-12-11
	
The set up of a full mesh of Multi-Protocol Label Switching (MPLS)
   Traffic Engineering (TE) Label Switched Paths (LSP) among a set of
   Label Switch Routers (LSR) is a common deployment scenario of MPLS
   Traffic Engineering either for bandwidth optimization, bandwidth
   guarantees or fast rerouting with MPLS Fast Reroute.  Such deployment
   may require the configuration of potentially a large number of TE
   LSPs (on the order of the square of the number LSRs).  This document
   specifies Interior Gateway Protocol (IGP) routing extensions for
   Intermediate System-to-Intermediate System (IS-IS) and Open Shortest
   Path First (OSPF) so as to provide an automatic discovery of the set
   of LSRs members of a mesh in order to automate the creation of such
   mesh of TE LSPs.

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Subject: RE: LCAS/VCAT
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 09:47:56 -0500
From: "Evelyne Roch" <[email-masked]>
To: "Adrian Farrel" <[email-masked]>, <[email-masked]>

I read the draft and have the following comments:

1- The draft is missing support for creation and deletion of VCG with
diversely routed signals without LCAS. This is because the procedure
that is used to setup the components does not provide information about
the VCAT layer, i.e. it is missing the total number of components that
are part of the same VCG. In a liaison from ITU-T SG15, Q14/15
https://datatracker.ietf.org/documents/LIAISON/file394.doc, the 2nd
figure of Attachment 2 shows a multi-layer setup of an Ethernet call
over VCAT/LCAS. Although the Ethernet layer is not relevant to the
draft, it should be noted that a portion of the diagram includes an
Aggregate NCC (Network Call Controller) that provides the missing
functionality in the draft to provide the number of components that form
the VCG. This is based on G.8080, in which the VCAT layer has its own
controller. The functions performed by the Aggregate NCC are required
whether or not LCAS is available. They allow both ends of the VCG to
know the overall status of the VCG and the number of components it
contains. It should also be noted that the call and connection states
for each constituent must be kept separately from the state of the VCAT
call.

2- The draft is missing support for the creation of the various
components in a separate phase than the creation of the VCAT group. In
general, it should be possible to create, for example, several VC-4
connections and to add them to a VCG at a later point to create, for
example, a VC-4-4v. This can only be achieved if an Aggregate NCC
exists.

3- I would prefer to use the call ID to correlate the diversely routed
signals instead of the Association Object. In my opinion, the call id is
a better choice because it is better aligned with the ASON architecture
(G.8080).

Regards,
Evelyne Roch
Metro Ethernet Networks, Nortel
Phone: +1 613 763 6492 (esn 393-6492)
e-mail: [email-masked] =20

-----Original Message-----
From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]] On
Behalf Of Adrian Farrel
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 6:57 AM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: LCAS/VCAT

Hi,

In San Diego Richard presented the current status of
draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-vcat-lcas-01.txt and suggested that the work is
nearing completion.

A quick show of hands indicated that very few had read the draft. This
may be because it is a very narrow niche that only a few are interested
in (i.e., all of the key people have read it), or may be because more
people need to have a look.

If you are interested in this work, could you please find some time
relatively soon to have a look at the draft and send your comments to
the list.

If you have or are planning an implementation could you drop me a
private
(confidential!) email.

Thanks,
Adrian=20

Delivery-date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 18:59:38 +0000
Date: Sat, 09 Dec 2006 10:56:49 -0800
From: Arun Satyanarayana <[email-masked]>
Organization: Cisco Systems
CC: [email-masked], "Arun Satyanarayana (asatyana)" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-restart-ext-06.txt

Hi,

This re-spin includes text per Gen-Art review comments. The diffs
are:

Section 4.5.1: Fix Typo in heading:
Old: Procedures For The Downstream Neighbor
New: Procedures for the Downstream Neighbor

Section 4.5.1: Add clarification text per Gen-Art review comments:
Old:
    All RecoveryPath messages SHOULD be sent at least once within
    approximately 1/2 of the Recovery Time advertised by the restarted
    neighbor.  If there are many LSPs to be recovered by the restarted
    node, the downstream RSVP neighbor should avoid sending RecoveryPath
    messages in a short time interval, to avoid overloading the restarted
    node's CPU.  Instead it should spread the messages across 1/2 the
    Recovery Time interval.
New:
    All RecoveryPath messages SHOULD be sent at least once within
    approximately 1/2 of the Recovery Time advertised by the restarted
    neighbor.  If there are many LSPs to be recovered by the restarted
    node, the downstream RSVP neighbor should avoid sending RecoveryPath
    messages in a short time interval, to avoid overloading the restarted
    node's CPU.  Instead it should spread the messages across 1/2 the
    Recovery Time interval.  The range of Recovery Time is dependent on
    many factors including but not limited to the CPU processing power on
    the restarting node as well as the upstream and downstream neighbors,
    amount of CPU available for processing RSVP recovery procedures,
    implementation specifics that affect the amount of time taken to
    verify the received recovery state against existing forwarding plane
    state.  Such discussion is out of scope of this document.

Section 6: Add text per Gen-Art review comments:
    [RFC2747] provides mechanisms to protect against external agents from
    compromising the RSVP signaling state in an RSVP agent.  These
    mechanisms, when used with the new message and procedures introduced
    in this document, provide the same degree of protection to the
    restarting RSVP agent, against installing compromised signaling state
    from an external agent during its RSVP signaling state recovery.

Authors' Addresses: Update contact info

Regards,
Arun
==============================================================
[email-masked] wrote:

> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts 
> directories.
> This draft is a work item of the Common Control and Measurement Plane Working Group of the IETF.
> 
> 	Title		: Extensions to GMPLS RSVP Graceful Restart
> 	Author(s)	: A. Satyanarayana, R. Rahman
> 	Filename	: draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-restart-ext-06.txt
> 	Pages		: 24
> 	Date		: 2006-12-8
> 	
> This document describes extensions to the RSVP Graceful Restart
>    mechanisms defined in RFC 3473.  The extensions enable the recovery
>    of RSVP signaling state based on the Path message last sent by the
>    node being restarted.  Previously defined Graceful Restart
>    mechanisms, also called recovery from nodal faults, permit recovery
>    of signaling state from adjacent nodes when the data plane has
>    retained the associated forwarding state across a restart.  These
>    mechanisms do not fully support signaling state recovery on ingress
>    nodes or recovery of all RSVP objects.  The presented extensions use
>    the RSVP Hello extensions defined in RFC 3209, and extensions for
>    state recovery on nodal faults defined in RFC 3473.  With the
>    presented extensions the restarting node can recover all previously
>    transmitted Path state including the Explicit Route Object and the
>    downstream (outgoing) interface identifiers.  The extensions can also
>    be used to recover signaling state after the restart of an ingress
>    node.  The extensions optionally support the use of Summary Refresh,
>    defined in RFC 2961, to reduce the number of messages exchanged
>    during the Recovery Phase when the restarting node has recovered
>    signaling state locally for one or more LSPs.
> 
> A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
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	Title		: Extensions to GMPLS RSVP Graceful Restart
	Author(s)	: A. Satyanarayana, R. Rahman
	Filename	: draft-ietf-ccamp-rsvp-restart-ext-06.txt
	Pages		: 24
	Date		: 2006-12-8
	
This document describes extensions to the RSVP Graceful Restart
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   node being restarted.  Previously defined Graceful Restart
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   node.  The extensions optionally support the use of Summary Refresh,
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   during the Recovery Phase when the restarting node has recovered
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Delivery-date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 14:41:07 +0000
Content-class: urn:content-classes:message
Subject: RE: Polling for new WG IDs
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 15:38:35 +0100
From: "MEURIC Julien RD-CORE-LAN" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>

Hi all.

1. I agree with Alessandro about draft-caviglia.

2. I'm still a bit confused with draft-kumaki positioning, so I'm not =
sure it's ready for WG document...

3. I support draft-takeda.

Have a good week-end,

Julien

________________________________

From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]] On =
Behalf Of Capello Alessandro

Yes to 1. =
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-0=
4.txt =
<http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-=
04.txt>=20

I think this is an important issue for the evolution of transport =
networks.

=20

Regards,

Alessandro

=20

________________________________

From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]] On =
Behalf Of Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS

Hi,

=20

As discussed in San Diego, we need to poll for a couple of new WG =
drafts:

=20

1. =
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-0=
4.txt

=20

2. =
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-interwo=
rk-reqts-02.txt

=20

3. =
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-ccamp-inter-domain-recov=
ery-analysis-01.txt

=20

Please send yes or no for these IDs.

=20

Reasons and opinions are also welcome.

=20

Thanks,

Deborah and Adrian

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Delivery-date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 02:50:39 +0000
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2006 11:46:40 +0900
From: "Yuji KAMITE" <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Polling for new WG IDs
To: [email-masked]

 > 1. http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-04.txt
	
Yes.

> 2. http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-interwork-reqts-02.txt
	 
Yes.

> 3. http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-ccamp-inter-domain-recovery-analysis-01.txt
	 
Yes.

Thanks.

-Yuji

________________________________

	From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS
	Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 6:23 AM
	To: [email-masked]
	Subject: Polling for new WG IDs

	Hi,
	 
	As discussed in San Diego, we need to poll for a couple of new WG drafts:
	 
	1. http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-04.txt
	 
	2. http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-interwork-reqts-02.txt
	 
	3. http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-ccamp-inter-domain-recovery-analysis-01.txt
	 
	Please send yes or no for these IDs.
	 
	Reasons and opinions are also welcome.
	 
	Thanks,
	Deborah and Adrian

Delivery-date: Thu, 07 Dec 2006 18:38:11 +0000
Reply-To: "Adrian Farrel" <[email-masked]>
From: "Adrian Farrel" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Communication received from OIF - 7/12/06
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 18:29:36 -0000
Organization: Old Dog Consulting

Hi,

We have received a communication from the OIF regarding their Carrier 
Working Group Requirements Document for Multi Domain Intelligent Optical 
Networks.

The communication and the current requirement document can be found on the 
CCAMP alternative Web pages at www.olddog.co.uk/ccamp.htm. The text of the 
covering letter can be seen below.

The OIF do not specifically ask us to perform any actions, but I am sure 
they would welcome any review comments that you might have. These can be 
sent direct or sent to the mailing list in which case Deborah and I will 
send a response.

Thanks,
Adrian

===
December  6,  2006
To: Adrian Farrel and Deborah Brungard, IETF CCAMP WG Co-Chairs
      J.P. Vasseur and Adrian Farrel, IETF PCE WG Co-Chairs
From: Jim Jones, OIF TC Chair
Copy: Ross Callon and Bill Fenner, IETF Routing Area Directors

Subject:  OIF  liaison  letter  regarding  Carrier  WG  Requirements 
Document

Dear Adrian, J.P. and Deborah,

The  OIF  Carrier  WG  is  in  the  process  of  updating  the  carrier 
requirements  document  related  to  control  plane  for  intelligent 
optcal  networks.  The  attached  draft  document  represents  an  update 
to  two  previous  requirements  documents,  focused  on  specific 
interfaces  (i.e.,  UNI  and  E-NNI,  respectively).

Sincerely  yours,

Jim  Jones
OIF,  Technical  Committee  Chair

cc:  Lyndon  Ong,  Richard  Bradford,  Hans-Martin  Foisel
Attachments: oif2006.134.02 

Delivery-date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 19:57:04 +0000
To: "Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS" <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked], [email-masked]
Subject: Re: Polling for new WG IDs
From: [email-masked]
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 20:55:57 +0100

hi - 

1. abstain

2. yes

3. yes

thanks,
- d.

"Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS" <[email-masked]>
Sent by: [email-masked]
30/11/2006 22:23
 
        To:     <[email-masked]>
        cc: 
        Subject:        Polling for new WG IDs

Hi,
 
As discussed in San Diego, we need to poll for a couple of new WG drafts:
 
1. 
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-04.txt
 
2. 
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-interwork-reqts-02.txt
 
3. 
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-ccamp-inter-domain-recovery-analysis-01.txt
 
Please send yes or no for these IDs.
 
Reasons and opinions are also welcome.
 
Thanks,
Deborah and Adrian

Delivery-date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 19:07:01 +0000
Reply-To: "Adrian Farrel" <[email-masked]>
From: "Adrian Farrel" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Fw: Polling for new WG IDs
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 18:51:29 -0000
Organization: Old Dog Consulting

Hi,

For unknown reasons Han Li is having trouble posting to CCAMP. Here is his 
email.

Adrian
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From: "����" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Cc: <[email-masked]>; "'Dan Li'" <[email-masked]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 1:09 AM
Subject: Re: Polling for new WG IDs

Yes to: 1.
<http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-04.
txt>
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-04.t
xt

It is important to address this issue esp.for management reasons of
carriers.

Best regards,

Han Li

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From: [email-masked] [ <mailto:[email-masked]>
mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS

Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 10:23 PM

To: [email-masked]

Subject: Polling for new WG IDs

Hi,

As discussed in San Diego, we need to poll for a couple of new WG drafts:

1.
<http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-04.
txt>
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-04.t
xt

2.
<http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-interwork
-reqts-02.txt>
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-interwork-
reqts-02.txt

3.
<http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-ccamp-inter-domain-recover
y-analysis-01.txt>
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-ccamp-inter-domain-recovery
-analysis-01.txt

Please send yes or no for these IDs.

Reasons and opinions are also welcome.

Thanks,

Deborah and Adrian

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                                                             ����

*****************************************************

Han Li, Ph.D.

R&D, CHINA MOBILE COMMUNICATIONS CORPORATION

Tel: +86 10 66006688 ext. 3092

Fax: +86 10 63600340

MOBILE: 13501093385

*****************************************************

Delivery-date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 02:00:05 +0000
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 10:58:01 +0900
To: [email-masked]
From: Wataru Imajuku <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Polling for new WG IDs

Hi, All

>1. 
><http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-04.txt>http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-04.txt

  Yes. This is real issue if operators wants to shift their operation to 
GMPLS controlled networks without disruption of services. It is preferable 
to have this choice for network operators.

  Yes.
>
>2. 
><http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-interwork-reqts-02.txt>http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-interwork-reqts-02.txt

Yes

>3. 
><http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-ccamp-inter-domain-recovery-analysis-01.txt>http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-ccamp-inter-domain-recovery-analysis-01.txt

  Yes. This draft is now handling inter-domain MPLS/GMPLS E2E recovery and 
siscussed following to WG charter.

  Also, I have to comment on 
draft-imajuku-ccamp-inter-domain-recovery-req-01.txt which
came from same organization (NTT) form Takeda draft.
  Draft-imajuku-ccamp-inter-domain-recovery-req-01.txt is handling 
interdomain GMPLS based
  non-E2E recovery. This draft does not include requirement for MPLS. This 
is the reason NTT team did not migrated the requirements described in this 
draft to Takeda draft.
  But, I hope this draft would be charter issue after next re-charter phase.
  I'm happy if we could share our thought with all CCAMPers.

Best Regards
Wataru

-------------------------------------
Wataru Imajuku@NTT Network Innovation Labs
TEL: +81-46-859-4315
FAX: +81-468-59-5541

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Subject: RE: Polling for new WG IDs
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 17:53:02 -0500
From: "Don Fedyk" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>

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=20
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________________________________

	From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]]
On Behalf Of Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS
	Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 4:23 PM
	To: [email-masked]
	Subject: Polling for new WG IDs
=09
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	Hi,
	=20
	As discussed in San Diego, we need to poll for a couple of new
WG drafts:
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http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-
04.txt
	=20
	2.
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-interw
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http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-ccamp-inter-domain-reco
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  [mailto:[email-masked]] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Brungard, =
Deborah A,=20
  ALABS<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 30, 2006 4:23 =
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  IDs<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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discussed in=20
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drafts:</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D213491321-30112006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-s=
c-reqs-04.txt">http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-p=
c-and-sc-reqs-04.txt</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D213491321-30112006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D213491321-30112006>2. =
<A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki-ccamp-mpls-gmpls=
-interwork-reqts-02.txt">http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki=
-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-interwork-reqts-02.txt</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D213491321-30112006>3. =
<A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-ccamp-inter-doma=
in-recovery-analysis-01.txt">http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ta=
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Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 16:43:24 +0100

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The management plane and control plane interworking is a fundamental =
issue in current GMPLS networks.

Best regards,

Fabio Baroncelli

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Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 20:36:46 +0900
From: "SHINDOME Kensuke" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Polling for new WG IDs
To: "Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS" <[email-masked]>, [email-masked]
Organization: Innovative IP Architecture Center, NTT Communications

Hi,

Yes to all.

Thanks,

At Thu, 30 Nov 2006 15:23:14 -0600,
"Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS" <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> [1  <text/plain; us-ascii (quoted-printable)>]
> Hi,
>  
> As discussed in San Diego, we need to poll for a couple of new WG
> drafts:
>  
> 1.
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-
> 04.txt
>  
> 2.
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-interw
> ork-reqts-02.txt
>  
> 3.
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-ccamp-inter-domain-reco
> very-analysis-01.txt
>  
> Please send yes or no for these IDs.
>  
> Reasons and opinions are also welcome.
>  
> Thanks,
> Deborah and Adrian
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> 
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Yes to 1. =
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4.txt =
<http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-=
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I think this is an important issue for the evolution of transport =
networks.

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Regards,

Alessandro

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From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]] On =
Behalf Of Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS
Sent: gioved=EC 30 novembre 2006 22.23
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Subject: Polling for new WG IDs

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Hi,

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As discussed in San Diego, we need to poll for a couple of new WG =
drafts:

=20

1. =
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-0=
4.txt

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2. =
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-interwo=
rk-reqts-02.txt

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3. =
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-ccamp-inter-domain-recov=
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Please send yes or no for these IDs.

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c-reqs-04.txt">http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-p=
c-and-sc-reqs-04.txt</a></span></font><o:p></o:p></p>

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In certain scenarios, there may be a need to combine together several
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To: "Attila Takacs (IJ/ETH)" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Polling for new WG IDs
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I agree with you that the issue is very important. I can understand that
router vendors who don't use a management plane think it may be
over-engineering. we may also need to engage with TMF early on in the
process.
Richard.

On 12/4/06, Attila Takacs (IJ/ETH) <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>  Yes to: 1.
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-04.txt
> It is important to address this issue for management plane / control
> plane coexistence.
> Regards,
> Attila
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]] *On
> Behalf Of *Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 30, 2006 10:23 PM
> *To:* [email-masked]
> *Subject:* Polling for new WG IDs
>
>  Hi,
>
> As discussed in San Diego, we need to poll for a couple of new WG drafts:
>
> 1.
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-04.txt
>
> 2.
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-interwork-reqts-02.txt
>
> 3.
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-ccamp-inter-domain-recovery-analysis-01.txt
>
> Please send yes or no for these IDs.
>
> Reasons and opinions are also welcome.
>
> Thanks,
> Deborah and Adrian
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I agree with you that the issue is very important. I can understand that router vendors who don't use a management plane think it may be over-engineering. we may also need to engage with TMF early on in the process.<br>Richard.
<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 12/4/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Attila Takacs (IJ/ETH)</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">

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<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span>Yes 
to: <font face="Arial" size="2"><span>1. <a href="http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-04.txt" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-04.txt
</a></span></font></span></font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span><font face="Arial" size="2"><span>It&nbsp;is important 
to&nbsp;address this issue&nbsp;for management plane /&nbsp;control 
plane&nbsp;coexistence.</span></font></span></font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span><font face="Arial" size="2"><span>Regards,</span></font></span></font></div>
<div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span><font face="Arial" size="2"><span>Attila</span></font></span></font></div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"></font><br>
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  <font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">[email-masked]</a> 
  [mailto:<a href="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">[email-masked]</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Brungard, Deborah A, 
  ALABS<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 30, 2006 10:23 PM<br><b>To:</b> 
  <a href="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Polling for new WG 
  IDs<br></font><br></div>
  <div></div>
  <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span>Hi,</span></font></div>
  <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span></span></font>&nbsp;</div>
  <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span>As discussed in 
  San Diego, we need to poll for a couple of new WG drafts:</span></font></div>
  <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span></span></font>&nbsp;</div>
  <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span>1. <a href="http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-04.txt" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-04.txt
</a></span></font></div>
  <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span></span></font>&nbsp;</div>
  <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span>2. <a href="http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-interwork-reqts-02.txt" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-interwork-reqts-02.txt
</a></span></font></div>
  <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span></span></font>&nbsp;</div>
  <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span>3. <a href="http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-ccamp-inter-domain-recovery-analysis-01.txt" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-ccamp-inter-domain-recovery-analysis-01.txt
</a></span></font></div>
  <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span></span></font>&nbsp;</div>
  <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span>Please send yes or 
  no for these IDs.</span></font></div>
  <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span></span></font>&nbsp;</div>
  <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span>Reasons and 
  opinions are also welcome.</span></font></div>
  <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span></span></font>&nbsp;</div>
  <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span>Thanks,</span></font></div>
  <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span>Deborah and 
  Adrian</span></font></div></blockquote></div>

</blockquote></div><br>

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Delivery-date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 14:36:41 +0000
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 23:34:02 +0900
From: ken nagami <[email-masked]>
To: "Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS" <[email-masked]>
CC:  [email-masked]
Subject: Re: Polling for new WG IDs

Hi,

> As discussed in San Diego, we need to poll for a couple of new WG drafts:
>  
> 2. 
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-interwork-reqts-02.txt

Yes.

Regards,

Ken Nagami

Delivery-date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 10:46:52 +0000
Reply-To: "tom.petch" <[email-masked]>
From: "tom.petch" <[email-masked]>
To: "Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS" <[email-masked]>, <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Polling for new WG IDs
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 21:51:07 +0100

---- Original Message -----
From: "Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 10:23 PM
Subject: Polling for new WG IDs

Hi,

As discussed in San Diego, we need to poll for a couple of new WG
drafts:

1.
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-
04.txt

Yes; challenging, and may be we will never reach consensus on it but that is not
a reason for not working to do so

Tom Petch

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Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 11:21:26 +0100
From: "Attila Takacs \(IJ/ETH\)" <[email-masked]>
To: "Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS" <[email-masked]>, <[email-masked]>

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Yes to: 1.
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-
04.txt
It is important to address this issue for management plane / control
plane coexistence.
Regards,
Attila

________________________________

	From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]]
On Behalf Of Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS
	Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 10:23 PM
	To: [email-masked]
	Subject: Polling for new WG IDs
=09
=09
	Hi,
	=20
	As discussed in San Diego, we need to poll for a couple of new
WG drafts:
	=20
	1.
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-
04.txt
	=20
	2.
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-interw
ork-reqts-02.txt
	=20
	3.
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-ccamp-inter-domain-reco
very-analysis-01.txt
	=20
	Please send yes or no for these IDs.
	=20
	Reasons and opinions are also welcome.
	=20
	Thanks,
	Deborah and Adrian

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href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-s=
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class=3D614541110-04122006><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
class=3D213491321-30112006>Regards,</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D614541110-04122006><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
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  [mailto:[email-masked]] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Brungard, =
Deborah A,=20
  ALABS<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 30, 2006 10:23 =
PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
  [email-masked]<BR><B>Subject:</B> Polling for new WG=20
  IDs<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
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discussed in=20
  San Diego, we need to poll for a couple of new WG =
drafts:</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D213491321-30112006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D213491321-30112006>1. =
<A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-s=
c-reqs-04.txt">http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-p=
c-and-sc-reqs-04.txt</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D213491321-30112006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D213491321-30112006>2. =
<A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki-ccamp-mpls-gmpls=
-interwork-reqts-02.txt">http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki=
-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-interwork-reqts-02.txt</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D213491321-30112006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D213491321-30112006>3. =
<A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-ccamp-inter-doma=
in-recovery-analysis-01.txt">http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ta=
keda-ccamp-inter-domain-recovery-analysis-01.txt</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D213491321-30112006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D213491321-30112006>Please send yes or=20
  no for these IDs.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D213491321-30112006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D213491321-30112006>Reasons and=20
  opinions are also welcome.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D213491321-30112006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D213491321-30112006>Thanks,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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Delivery-date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 08:33:40 +0000
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 16:21:13 +0800
From: Dan Li <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: LCAS/VCAT
To: Adrian Farrel <[email-masked]>, [email-masked]

Hi,

I am interested in this work and think it's a useful functionality, but also have some questions on this draft:
1) In section 3.2, four scenarios have been described. Is there any requirement for the VCAT/LCAS capabilities for each scenario? or there is no such relationship between the scenarios and the VCAT/LCAS capabilities?
2) In section 4.2, for diversely routed VCG, what I understand is separately setup a set of LSPs which have same Ingress and Egress nodes, and associate these LSPs as a VCG at both Ingress and Egress nodes.  Could you elaborate how to manage/use the VCG? i.e. how to use the VCG to support the required service? I think at both ends of the VCG, the same signal adaptation should be required.

Thanks,

Dan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Adrian Farrel" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 7:56 PM
Subject: LCAS/VCAT

> Hi,
> 
> In San Diego Richard presented the current status of 
> draft-ietf-ccamp-gmpls-vcat-lcas-01.txt and suggested that the work is 
> nearing completion.
> 
> A quick show of hands indicated that very few had read the draft. This may 
> be because it is a very narrow niche that only a few are interested in 
> (i.e., all of the key people have read it), or may be because more people 
> need to have a look.
> 
> If you are interested in this work, could you please find some time 
> relatively soon to have a look at the draft and send your comments to the 
> list.
> 
> If you have or are planning an implementation could you drop me a private 
> (confidential!) email.
> 
> Thanks,
> Adrian 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Delivery-date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 01:55:32 +0000
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 09:51:32 +0800
From: Dan Li <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Polling for new WG IDs
To: "Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS" <[email-masked]>, [email-masked]

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Hi,

1. http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-04.txt

Yes. I believe all the comments which also have been summarized in Adrian's email (on Sept. 15th) have been addressed in the revised draft.

Thanks,

Dan

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS 
  To: [email-masked] 
  Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 5:23 AM
  Subject: Polling for new WG IDs

  Hi,

  As discussed in San Diego, we need to poll for a couple of new WG drafts:

  1. http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-04.txt

  2. http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-interwork-reqts-02.txt

  3. http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-ccamp-inter-domain-recovery-analysis-01.txt

  Please send yes or no for these IDs.

  Reasons and opinions are also welcome.

  Thanks,
  Deborah and Adrian

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<DIV><SPAN class=213491321-30112006><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>Hi,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=213491321-30112006><FONT face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=213491321-30112006><FONT face=Arial size=2>1. </FONT><A 
href="http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-04.txt"><FONT 
face=Arial 
size=2>http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-04.txt</FONT></A></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=213491321-30112006><FONT face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=213491321-30112006><FONT face=Arial size=2>Yes. I&nbsp;believe 
all the comments which also&nbsp;have been summarized in Adrian's email (on 
Sept. 15th)&nbsp;have been addressed in the revised draft.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=213491321-30112006><FONT face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=213491321-30112006><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>Thanks,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=213491321-30112006><FONT face=Arial 
size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=213491321-30112006><FONT face=Arial 
size=2>Dan</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=213491321-30112006></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV style="FONT: 9pt &#23435;&#20307;">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 9pt &#23435;&#20307;; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  <A title=[email-masked] href="mailto:[email-masked]">Brungard, Deborah 
  A, ALABS</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 9pt &#23435;&#20307;"><B>To:</B> <A title=[email-masked] 
  href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 9pt &#23435;&#20307;"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, December 01, 2006 5:23 AM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 9pt &#23435;&#20307;"><B>Subject:</B> Polling for new WG IDs</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
  class=213491321-30112006>Hi,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
  class=213491321-30112006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=213491321-30112006>As discussed in 
  San Diego, we need to poll for a couple of new WG drafts:</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
  class=213491321-30112006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=213491321-30112006>1. <A 
  href="http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-04.txt">http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-04.txt</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
  class=213491321-30112006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=213491321-30112006>2. <A 
  href="http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-interwork-reqts-02.txt">http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-interwork-reqts-02.txt</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
  class=213491321-30112006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=213491321-30112006>3. <A 
  href="http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-ccamp-inter-domain-recovery-analysis-01.txt">http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-ccamp-inter-domain-recovery-analysis-01.txt</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
  class=213491321-30112006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=213491321-30112006>Please send yes or 
  no for these IDs.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
  class=213491321-30112006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=213491321-30112006>Reasons and 
  opinions are also welcome.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
  class=213491321-30112006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN 
  class=213491321-30112006>Thanks,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=213491321-30112006>Deborah and 
  Adrian</SPAN></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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Delivery-date: Sun, 03 Dec 2006 22:20:21 +0000
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 17:17:30 -0500
From: "Peng He" <[email-masked]>
To: "Miya Kohno (mkohno)" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Polling for new WG IDs
Cc: "Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS" <[email-masked]>, [email-masked]

For the first one,  I also agree with Zafar.  No,

For the second and the third one, Yes and Yes.

Regards,
Peng

On 12/3/06, Miya Kohno (mkohno) <[email-masked]> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> >As discussed in San Diego, we need to poll for a couple of new WG
> drafts:
> ......
>
> >               2.
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-interw
> ork-reqts-02.txt
> ><http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-inte
> rwork-reqts-02.txt>
> >
>
> Yes.
>
>

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Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 01:39:58 +0800
From: "Miya Kohno \(mkohno\)" <[email-masked]>
To: "Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS" <[email-masked]>, <[email-masked]>
Cc: "Miya Kohno \(mkohno\)" <[email-masked]>

> Hi,
>
>As discussed in San Diego, we need to poll for a couple of new WG
drafts:
......
		=20
>		2.
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-interw
ork-reqts-02.txt
><http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-inte
rwork-reqts-02.txt> =20
>		=20

Yes.=20

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Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 05:35:53 -0800 (PST)
From: Igor Bryskin <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: Polling for new WG IDs
To: "Ong, Lyndon" <[email-masked]>, "Zafar Ali \(zali\)" <[email-masked]>, "Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS" <[email-masked]>, [email-masked]

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Yes to all three.

Igor

"Ong, Lyndon" <[email-masked]> wrote:     Hi Folks,
  
 I agree with Zafar on this.  No, Yes and  Yes.
  
 Cheers,
  
 Lyndon

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 From: [email-masked]  [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Zafar Ali  (zali)
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 8:23 PM
To:  Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS; [email-masked]
Subject: RE: Polling  for new WG IDs

  
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 From: [email-masked]  [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Brungard, Deborah A,  ALABS
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 4:23 PM
To:  [email-masked]
Subject: Polling for new WG  IDs

   Hi,
    
   As discussed in    San Diego, we need to poll for a couple of new WG drafts:
    
   1. http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-04.txt 
    
 No, IMO transferring the ownership  and control of an existing and in-use Data Plane connection between the  Management Plane and the Control Plane is over-engineering.  
     
   2. http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-interwork-reqts-02.txt 
    
 Yes,  
     
   3. http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-ccamp-inter-domain-recovery-analysis-01.txt 
    
 Yes,  
     
   Please send yes or    no for these IDs.
    
   Reasons and    opinions are also welcome.
    
   Thanks,
   Deborah and    Adrian

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Yes to all three.<br><br>Igor<br><br><b><i>"Ong, Lyndon" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;</i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;">   <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <meta content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2995" name="GENERATOR"> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="161311916-01122006"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Hi Folks,</font></span></div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="161311916-01122006"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"></font></span>&nbsp;</div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="161311916-01122006"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">I agree with Zafar on this.&nbsp; No, Yes and  Yes.</font></span></div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="161311916-01122006"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"></font></span>&nbsp;</div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="161311916-01122006"><font
 color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Cheers,</font></span></div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="161311916-01122006"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"></font></span>&nbsp;</div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="161311916-01122006"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Lyndon</font></span></div><br> <div class="OutlookMessageHeader" dir="ltr" align="left" lang="en-us"> <hr tabindex="-1"> <font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> [email-masked]  [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Zafar Ali  (zali)<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 30, 2006 8:23 PM<br><b>To:</b>  Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS; [email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: Polling  for new WG IDs<br></font><br></div> <div></div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"> <hr tabindex="-1"> <font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> [email-masked]  [mailto:[email-masked]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Brungard, Deborah A,  ALABS<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday,
 November 30, 2006 4:23 PM<br><b>To:</b>  [email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Polling for new WG  IDs<br></font><br></div> <blockquote dir="ltr" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 0, 255); padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;">   <div></div>   <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="213491321-30112006">Hi,</span></font></div>   <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="213491321-30112006"></span></font>&nbsp;</div>   <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="213491321-30112006">As discussed in    San Diego, we need to poll for a couple of new WG drafts:</span></font></div>   <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="213491321-30112006"></span></font>&nbsp;</div>   <div><span class="213491321-30112006"><font face="Arial" size="2">1. </font><a href="http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-04.txt"><font face="Arial"
 size="2">http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-04.txt</font></a><span class="927501904-01122006"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">&nbsp;</font></span></span></div>   <div><span class="213491321-30112006"><span class="927501904-01122006"></span></span>&nbsp;</div></blockquote> <div dir="ltr"><span class="213491321-30112006"><span class="927501904-01122006"><font face="Arial" size="2">No, IMO <font size="3"><font size="2">transferring the ownership  and control of an&nbsp;existing and in-use Data Plane connection between the  Management&nbsp;Plane and the Control Plane is over-engineering.</font>  </font></font></span></span></div> <blockquote dir="ltr" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 0, 255); padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;">   <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="213491321-30112006"></span></font>&nbsp;</div>   <div><span class="213491321-30112006"><font face="Arial" size="2">2. </font><a
 href="http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-interwork-reqts-02.txt"><font face="Arial" size="2">http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-interwork-reqts-02.txt</font></a><span class="927501904-01122006"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">&nbsp;</font></span></span></div>   <div><span class="213491321-30112006"><span class="927501904-01122006"></span></span>&nbsp;</div></blockquote> <div dir="ltr"><span class="213491321-30112006"><span class="927501904-01122006"><font face="Arial" size="2">Yes, </font>&nbsp;</span></span></div> <blockquote dir="ltr" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 0, 255); padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;">   <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="213491321-30112006"></span></font>&nbsp;</div>   <div><span class="213491321-30112006"><font face="Arial" size="2">3. </font><a
 href="http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-ccamp-inter-domain-recovery-analysis-01.txt"><font face="Arial" size="2">http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-ccamp-inter-domain-recovery-analysis-01.txt</font></a><span class="927501904-01122006"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">&nbsp;</font></span></span></div>   <div><span class="213491321-30112006"><span class="927501904-01122006"></span></span>&nbsp;</div></blockquote> <div dir="ltr"><span class="213491321-30112006"><span class="927501904-01122006"><font face="Arial" size="2">Yes, </font>&nbsp;</span></span></div> <blockquote dir="ltr" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 0, 255); padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;">   <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="213491321-30112006"></span></font>&nbsp;</div>   <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="213491321-30112006">Please send yes or    no for these IDs.</span></font></div>   <div><font face="Arial"
 size="2"><span class="213491321-30112006"></span></font>&nbsp;</div>   <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="213491321-30112006">Reasons and    opinions are also welcome.</span></font></div>   <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="213491321-30112006"></span></font>&nbsp;</div>   <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="213491321-30112006">Thanks,</span></font></div>   <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="213491321-30112006">Deborah and    Adrian</span></font></div></blockquote></blockquote><br><p>&#32;

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Subject: RE: Polling for new WG IDs
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 21:56:13 -0500
From: "Ong, Lyndon" <[email-masked]>
To: "Zafar Ali \(zali\)" <[email-masked]>, "Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS" <[email-masked]>, <[email-masked]>

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Hi Folks,
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I agree with Zafar on this.  No, Yes and Yes.
=20
Cheers,
=20
Lyndon

________________________________

From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]] On
Behalf Of Zafar Ali (zali)
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 8:23 PM
To: Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS; [email-masked]
Subject: RE: Polling for new WG IDs

________________________________

From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]] On
Behalf Of Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 4:23 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Polling for new WG IDs

	Hi,
	=20
	As discussed in San Diego, we need to poll for a couple of new
WG drafts:
	=20
	1.
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-
04.txt
<http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs
-04.txt> =20
	=20

No, IMO transferring the ownership and control of an existing and in-use
Data Plane connection between the Management Plane and the Control Plane
is over-engineering.=20

	=20
	2.
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-interw
ork-reqts-02.txt
<http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-inter
work-reqts-02.txt> =20
	=20

Yes, =20

	=20
	3.
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-ccamp-inter-domain-reco
very-analysis-01.txt
<http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-ccamp-inter-domain-rec
overy-analysis-01.txt> =20
	=20

Yes, =20

	=20
	Please send yes or no for these IDs.
	=20
	Reasons and opinions are also welcome.
	=20
	Thanks,
	Deborah and Adrian

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(zali)<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 30, 2006 8:23 PM<BR><B>To:</B> =

Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS; [email-masked]<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: =
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<DIV></DIV>
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<FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> [email-masked]=20
[mailto:[email-masked]] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Brungard, Deborah =
A,=20
ALABS<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 30, 2006 4:23 PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
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  class=3D213491321-30112006>Hi,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D213491321-30112006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D213491321-30112006>As =
discussed in=20
  San Diego, we need to poll for a couple of new WG =
drafts:</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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  class=3D213491321-30112006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D213491321-30112006><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>1. =
</FONT><A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-s=
c-reqs-04.txt"><FONT=20
  face=3DArial=20
  =
size=3D2>http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-=
sc-reqs-04.txt</FONT></A><SPAN=20
  class=3D927501904-01122006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>&nbsp;</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D213491321-30112006><SPAN=20
  class=3D927501904-01122006></SPAN></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV dir=3Dltr><SPAN class=3D213491321-30112006><SPAN =
class=3D927501904-01122006><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>No, IMO <FONT size=3D3><FONT size=3D2>transferring =
the ownership=20
and control of an&nbsp;existing and in-use Data Plane connection between =
the=20
Management&nbsp;Plane and the Control Plane is over-engineering.</FONT>=20
</FONT></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px =
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D213491321-30112006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D213491321-30112006><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2. =
</FONT><A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki-ccamp-mpls-gmpls=
-interwork-reqts-02.txt"><FONT=20
  face=3DArial=20
  =
size=3D2>http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki-ccamp-mpls-gmpl=
s-interwork-reqts-02.txt</FONT></A><SPAN=20
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  <DIV><SPAN class=3D213491321-30112006><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>3. =
</FONT><A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-ccamp-inter-doma=
in-recovery-analysis-01.txt"><FONT=20
  face=3DArial=20
  =
size=3D2>http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-ccamp-inter-dom=
ain-recovery-analysis-01.txt</FONT></A><SPAN=20
  class=3D927501904-01122006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>&nbsp;</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=3Dltr><SPAN class=3D213491321-30112006><SPAN =
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  no for these IDs.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D213491321-30112006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 09:48:29 -0800
From: "Richard Rabbat" <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: Polling for new WG IDs
Cc: "Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS" <[email-masked]>

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yes to all
richard

On 12/1/06, Dean Cheng (dcheng) <[email-masked]> wrote:
>
>  Yes to all.
>
> Dean
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]] *On
> Behalf Of *Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 30, 2006 1:23 PM
> *To:* [email-masked]
> *Subject:* Polling for new WG IDs
>
>  Hi,
>
> As discussed in San Diego, we need to poll for a couple of new WG drafts:
>
> 1.
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-04.txt
>
> 2.
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-interwork-reqts-02.txt
>
> 3.
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-ccamp-inter-domain-recovery-analysis-01.txt
>
> Please send yes or no for these IDs.
>
> Reasons and opinions are also welcome.
>
> Thanks,
> Deborah and Adrian
>
>

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yes to all<br>richard<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 12/1/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Dean Cheng (dcheng)</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">

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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Yes to all.</font></span></div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"></font></span>&nbsp;</div>
<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Dean</font></span></div><br>
<blockquote dir="ltr" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 0, 255); padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;">
  <div dir="ltr" align="left" lang="en-us">
  <hr><span class="q">
  <font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">[email-masked]</a> 
  [mailto:<a href="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">[email-masked]</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Brungard, Deborah A, 
  ALABS<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 30, 2006 1:23 PM<br><b>To:</b> 
  <a href="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Polling for new WG 
  IDs<br></font><br></span></div><span class="q">
  <div></div>
  <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span>Hi,</span></font></div>
  <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span></span></font>&nbsp;</div>
  <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span>As discussed in 
  San Diego, we need to poll for a couple of new WG drafts:</span></font></div>
  <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span></span></font>&nbsp;</div>
  <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span>1. <a href="http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-04.txt" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-04.txt
</a></span></font></div>
  <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span></span></font>&nbsp;</div>
  <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span>2. <a href="http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-interwork-reqts-02.txt" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-interwork-reqts-02.txt
</a></span></font></div>
  <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span></span></font>&nbsp;</div>
  <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span>3. <a href="http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-ccamp-inter-domain-recovery-analysis-01.txt" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-ccamp-inter-domain-recovery-analysis-01.txt
</a></span></font></div>
  <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span></span></font>&nbsp;</div>
  <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span>Please send yes or 
  no for these IDs.</span></font></div>
  <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span></span></font>&nbsp;</div>
  <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span>Reasons and 
  opinions are also welcome.</span></font></div>
  <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span></span></font>&nbsp;</div>
  <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span>Thanks,</span></font></div>
  <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span>Deborah and 
  Adrian</span></font></div></span></blockquote></div>

</blockquote></div><br>

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Delivery-date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 17:29:42 +0000
Reply-To: "Adrian Farrel" <[email-masked]>
From: "Adrian Farrel" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>, <[email-masked]>, <[email-masked]>
Subject: Lucent/Alcatel changes in email addresses
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 17:26:44 -0000
Organization: Old Dog Consulting

Hi,

If your email address is changing, don't forget to update your subscription 
to the mailing lists.

Adrian 

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Subject: RE: Polling for new WG IDs
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 09:11:40 -0800
From: "Dean Cheng \(dcheng\)" <[email-masked]>
To: "Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS" <[email-masked]>, <[email-masked]>

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Yes to all.
=20
Dean

________________________________

	From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]]
On Behalf Of Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS
	Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 1:23 PM
	To: [email-masked]
	Subject: Polling for new WG IDs
=09
=09
	Hi,
	=20
	As discussed in San Diego, we need to poll for a couple of new
WG drafts:
	=20
	1.
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-
04.txt
	=20
	2.
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-interw
ork-reqts-02.txt
	=20
	3.
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-ccamp-inter-domain-reco
very-analysis-01.txt
	=20
	Please send yes or no for these IDs.
	=20
	Reasons and opinions are also welcome.
	=20
	Thanks,
	Deborah and Adrian

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  [mailto:[email-masked]] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Brungard, =
Deborah A,=20
  ALABS<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 30, 2006 1:23 =
PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
  [email-masked]<BR><B>Subject:</B> Polling for new WG=20
  IDs<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D213491321-30112006>Hi,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D213491321-30112006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D213491321-30112006>As =
discussed in=20
  San Diego, we need to poll for a couple of new WG =
drafts:</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D213491321-30112006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D213491321-30112006>1. =
<A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-s=
c-reqs-04.txt">http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-p=
c-and-sc-reqs-04.txt</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D213491321-30112006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D213491321-30112006>2. =
<A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki-ccamp-mpls-gmpls=
-interwork-reqts-02.txt">http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki=
-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-interwork-reqts-02.txt</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D213491321-30112006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D213491321-30112006>3. =
<A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-ccamp-inter-doma=
in-recovery-analysis-01.txt">http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ta=
keda-ccamp-inter-domain-recovery-analysis-01.txt</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D213491321-30112006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D213491321-30112006>Please send yes or=20
  no for these IDs.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D213491321-30112006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D213491321-30112006>Reasons and=20
  opinions are also welcome.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D213491321-30112006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D213491321-30112006>Thanks,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D213491321-30112006>Deborah and=20
  Adrian</SPAN></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 10:19:18 -0500
From: "Pandian, Vijay" <[email-masked]>
To: "Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS" <[email-masked]>, <[email-masked]>

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1.  =
<http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-=
04.txt> =
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-0=
4.txt
=20
Yes. In my opinion, if we believe in the usefulness of the Control Plane =
in a transport network, this draft addresses a very important problem =
that helps migration of legacy networks.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]]On =
Behalf Of Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 4:23 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Polling for new WG IDs

Hi,
=20
As discussed in San Diego, we need to poll for a couple of new WG =
drafts:
=20
1. =
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-0=
4.txt
=20
2. =
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-interwo=
rk-reqts-02.txt
=20
3. =
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-ccamp-inter-domain-recov=
ery-analysis-01.txt
=20
Please send yes or no for these IDs.
=20
Reasons and opinions are also welcome.
=20
Thanks,
Deborah and Adrian

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</FONT><A=20
href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-s=
c-reqs-04.txt"><FONT=20
face=3DArial=20
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class=3D100461415-01122006>Yes. In my opinion, if we believe in the =
usefulness of=20
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important=20
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  <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
  size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
[email-masked]=20
  [mailto:[email-masked]]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Brungard, Deborah =
A,=20
  ALABS<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 30, 2006 4:23 =
PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
  [email-masked]<BR><B>Subject:</B> Polling for new WG=20
  IDs<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D213491321-30112006>Hi,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D213491321-30112006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D213491321-30112006>As =
discussed in=20
  San Diego, we need to poll for a couple of new WG =
drafts:</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D213491321-30112006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D213491321-30112006>1. =
<A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-s=
c-reqs-04.txt">http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-p=
c-and-sc-reqs-04.txt</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D213491321-30112006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D213491321-30112006>2. =
<A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki-ccamp-mpls-gmpls=
-interwork-reqts-02.txt">http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki=
-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-interwork-reqts-02.txt</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D213491321-30112006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D213491321-30112006>3. =
<A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-ccamp-inter-doma=
in-recovery-analysis-01.txt">http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ta=
keda-ccamp-inter-domain-recovery-analysis-01.txt</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D213491321-30112006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D213491321-30112006>Please send yes or=20
  no for these IDs.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D213491321-30112006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D213491321-30112006>Reasons and=20
  opinions are also welcome.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D213491321-30112006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D213491321-30112006>Thanks,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D213491321-30112006>Deborah and=20
  Adrian</SPAN></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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Cc: <[email-masked]>
From: JP Vasseur <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: Polling for new WG IDs
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2006 07:37:47 -0500
To: "Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS" <[email-masked]>

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Hi,

On Nov 30, 2006, at 4:23 PM, Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS wrote:

> Hi,
>
> As discussed in San Diego, we need to poll for a couple of new WG  
> drafts:
>
> 1. http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and- 
> sc-reqs-04.txt
>
> 2. http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki-ccamp-mpls- 
> gmpls-interwork-reqts-02.txt
>

Yes

>
> 3. http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-ccamp-inter- 
> domain-recovery-analysis-01.txt
>

Yes (I'm a co-author).

Thanks.

JP.

> Please send yes or no for these IDs.
>
> Reasons and opinions are also welcome.
>
> Thanks,
> Deborah and Adrian

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<HTML><BODY style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; =
-khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi,<DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On Nov 30, =
2006, at 4:23 PM, Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS wrote:</DIV><BR =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">  =
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><SPAN =
class=3D"213491321-30112006">Hi,</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT =
face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><SPAN =
class=3D"213491321-30112006"></SPAN></FONT>=A0</DIV> <DIV><FONT =
face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><SPAN class=3D"213491321-30112006">As =
discussed in San Diego, we need to poll for a couple of new WG =
drafts:</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><SPAN =
class=3D"213491321-30112006"></SPAN></FONT>=A0</DIV> <DIV><FONT =
face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><SPAN class=3D"213491321-30112006">1. <A =
href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc=
-reqs-04.txt">http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-=
and-sc-reqs-04.txt</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial" =
size=3D"2"><SPAN class=3D"213491321-30112006"></SPAN></FONT>=A0</DIV> =
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><SPAN class=3D"213491321-30112006">2.=
 <A =
href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-=
interwork-reqts-02.txt">http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki-c=
camp-mpls-gmpls-interwork-reqts-02.txt</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV> =
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><SPAN =
class=3D"213491321-30112006"></SPAN></FONT><BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR=
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type=3D"cite"><DIV>=A0</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><SPAN =
class=3D"213491321-30112006">3. <A =
href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-ccamp-inter-domai=
n-recovery-analysis-01.txt">http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-take=
da-ccamp-inter-domain-recovery-analysis-01.txt</A></SPAN></FONT></DIV> =
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><SPAN =
class=3D"213491321-30112006"></SPAN></FONT>=A0</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR =
class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Yes (I'm a =
co-author).</DIV><DIV><BR =
class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Thanks.</DIV><DIV><BR =
class=3D"khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>JP.</DIV><BR><BLOCKQUOTE =
type=3D"cite"> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><SPAN =
class=3D"213491321-30112006">Please send yes or no for these =
IDs.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><SPAN =
class=3D"213491321-30112006"></SPAN></FONT>=A0</DIV> <DIV><FONT =
face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><SPAN class=3D"213491321-30112006">Reasons and =
opinions are also welcome.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial" =
size=3D"2"><SPAN class=3D"213491321-30112006"></SPAN></FONT>=A0</DIV> =
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><SPAN =
class=3D"213491321-30112006">Thanks,</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT =
face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"><SPAN class=3D"213491321-30112006">Deborah and =
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From: [email-masked] [mailto:[email-masked]] On
Behalf Of Brungard, Deborah A, ALABS
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 4:23 PM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: Polling for new WG IDs

	Hi,
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	As discussed in San Diego, we need to poll for a couple of new
WG drafts:
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	1.
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs-
04.txt
<http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-sc-reqs
-04.txt> =20
	=20

No, IMO transferring the ownership and control of an existing and in-use
Data Plane connection between the Management Plane and the Control Plane
is over-engineering.=20

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	2.
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-interw
ork-reqts-02.txt
<http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-inter
work-reqts-02.txt> =20
	=20

Yes, =20

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	3.
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-ccamp-inter-domain-reco
very-analysis-01.txt
<http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-ccamp-inter-domain-rec
overy-analysis-01.txt> =20
	=20

Yes, =20

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	Please send yes or no for these IDs.
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	Reasons and opinions are also welcome.
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	Thanks,
	Deborah and Adrian

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[mailto:[email-masked]] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Brungard, Deborah =
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ALABS<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 30, 2006 4:23 PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D213491321-30112006>Hi,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN class=3D213491321-30112006>As =
discussed in=20
  San Diego, we need to poll for a couple of new WG =
drafts:</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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  class=3D213491321-30112006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D213491321-30112006><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>1. =
</FONT><A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-s=
c-reqs-04.txt"><FONT=20
  face=3DArial=20
  =
size=3D2>http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-caviglia-ccamp-pc-and-=
sc-reqs-04.txt</FONT></A><SPAN=20
  class=3D927501904-01122006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>&nbsp;</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D213491321-30112006><SPAN=20
  class=3D927501904-01122006></SPAN></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV dir=3Dltr><SPAN class=3D213491321-30112006><SPAN =
class=3D927501904-01122006><FONT=20
face=3DArial size=3D2>No, IMO <FONT size=3D3><FONT size=3D2>transferring =
the ownership=20
and control of an&nbsp;existing and in-use Data Plane connection between =
the=20
Management&nbsp;Plane and the Control Plane is over-engineering.</FONT>=20
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  <DIV><SPAN class=3D213491321-30112006><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>2. =
</FONT><A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki-ccamp-mpls-gmpls=
-interwork-reqts-02.txt"><FONT=20
  face=3DArial=20
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size=3D2>http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-kumaki-ccamp-mpls-gmpl=
s-interwork-reqts-02.txt</FONT></A><SPAN=20
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face=3DArial size=3D2>Yes, </FONT>&nbsp;</SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
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  <DIV><SPAN class=3D213491321-30112006><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>3. =
</FONT><A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-ccamp-inter-doma=
in-recovery-analysis-01.txt"><FONT=20
  face=3DArial=20
  =
size=3D2>http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-takeda-ccamp-inter-dom=
ain-recovery-analysis-01.txt</FONT></A><SPAN=20
  class=3D927501904-01122006><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff=20
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<DIV dir=3Dltr><SPAN class=3D213491321-30112006><SPAN =
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face=3DArial size=3D2>Yes, </FONT>&nbsp;</SPAN></SPAN></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D213491321-30112006>Please send yes or=20
  no for these IDs.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D213491321-30112006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D213491321-30112006>Reasons and=20
  opinions are also welcome.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D213491321-30112006></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D213491321-30112006>Thanks,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D213491321-30112006>Deborah and=20
  Adrian</SPAN></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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