Subject: Tentative IDMR minutes from Oslo

From: Bill Fenner <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 19:41:11 -0700 (PDT)

Please reply to me with any comments or corrections.

Thanks,
  Bill

IDMR met in one session at the Oslo IETF: Tuesday 3:45 - 4:45.

The new charter, as discussed in Minneapolis and on the mailing
list, was not yet officially active, but the group was run following
the new charter.  It was basically a status session, trying to
determine the status and path of the working group.

What follows is a summary of the protocols, the associated documents,
and action items assigned.

DVMRP
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v3 Spec - draft-ietf-idmr-dvmrp-v3-08.{txt.ps}
	Status: Almost ready for WG Last Call for Proposed Standard.
	Action Item: Tom Pusateri submits updated version by August 31
v3 Applicability Statement
	Status: Required document for routing protocols to move to
		Proposed Standard.
	Action Item: Tom Pusateri writes and submits by August 31
MIB - draft-thaler-dvmrp-mib-09.txt
	Status: Needs minor updates; should become WG document.
	Action Item: Dave Thaler submits updated version by August 31

IGMP
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v2 spec - RFC 2236
	Status: time to progress it to Draft Standard.  Needs an
		update to incorporate Erik Nordmark's comments on
		the IPv6 MLD spec (most of which apply to the IGMPv2
		spec as well).  Also should mention that the common
		practice of not reporting any group in 224.0.0/24
		is not valid (only 224.0.0.1 is excluded).
	Action Item: Bill Fenner submits updated version by August 31.
MIB - draft-ietf-idmr-igmp-mib-10.txt
	Status: WG approved submission for Proposed Standard, several
		minor revisions since.
	Action Item: AD's ask IESG to advance to Proposed Standard.
v3 spec - draft-ietf-idmr-igmp-v3-01.txt
	Status: Implementable now; needs minor revisions before
		submitting for WG last call.
	Action Item: Authors submit version ready for last call by
		August 31.
v3 router behavior
	Status: A Companion document to the IGMPv3 spec, describing
		how existing multicast IGP's react to given
		IGMPv3 membership information.
	Action Item: Cain submits initial draft by September 30.
IGMP Proxying - draft-fenner-igmp-proxy-02.{txt,ps}
	Status: probably ready for WG Last Call.
	Action Item: Working Group and Implementors give feedback
		to author on completeness of spec.
Multicast Router Discovery
	Status: needs an update, then should be ready for Last Call.
	Action Item: Brad Cain submits updated version by August 31.

Other MIBs
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Multicast Routing MIB - draft-ietf-idmr-multicast-routmib-09.txt
	Status: Submitted to the IESG; several minor revisions since;
		needs more minor revisions.
	Action Item: Dave Thaler submits updated version by August 31.
PIM MIB - draft-ietf-idmr-pim-mib-06.txt
	Status: Submitted to the IESG for consideration as Proposed
		Standard; several minor revisions since; needs more
		minor revisions.
	Action Item: Dave Thaler submits updated version by August 31.

Domain-Wide Reports
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Discussion: we've needed these for years; nobody has implemented them.
Why not?  Is it still worth specifying?  The opinions expressed were
that Domain-Wide Reports are something that fills a hole in the
current architecture, and perhaps the lack of implementation is due
to the fact that it's not an RFC yet.

Domain-Wide Reports - draft-ietf-idmr-membership-reports-03.{txt,ps}
	Status: needs update to security before Last Call.
	Action Item: Bill Fenner submits document with updated
		security considerations by August 31.

Interoperability Rules for Multicast Routing Protocols
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Discussion: This spec doesn't mention e.g. MSDP or BGMP; should it?
The opinions expressed was that those are charter items for the BGMP
and MSDP working groups; this document was meant to cover the protocols
currently in use or documented in an RFC.

draft-thaler-multicast-interop-03.txt
	Status: Ready for Last Call to publish as Informational RFC.
	Action Item: Bill Fenner sends WG Last Call after IETF.

Multicast Traceroute
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draft-ietf-idmr-traceroute-ipm-05.{txt,ps}
	Status: Needs an update for old language in statistics
		section.  Based on discussion in meeting, also
		needs a more complete discussion of the "Routing
		Protocol" field and what criteria the IANA are
		to use when allocating new values.
	Action Items: Feedback from WG on spec.
		      Bill Fenner submits updated spec by August 31.

Other Items
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One document that was suggested is a document specifying the use
of SAFI 2 and 3 in MBGP, similar to RFC2545 for IPv6.  In addition,
it was mentioned that SAFI 2 is overloaded for both the M-RIB and
the G-RIB and it might be better to specify the use of a different
SAFI for the G-RIB.  No action items were discussed at the meeting.
	Action Item: Bill Fenner discusses with David Meyer about
		whether this document belongs in IDMR or MBONED.