Subject: Re: [Madinas] Call for adoption: draft-henry-madinas-framework

From: "Lee, Yiu" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2021 14:34:06 +0000

I support adopting both drafts.

Yiu

From: Madinas <[email-masked]> on behalf of Juan Carlos Zuniga <[email-masked]>
Date: Wednesday, November 10, 2021 at 08:56
To: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Cc: Juan Carlos Zuniga <[email-masked]>, CARLOS JESUS BERNARDOS CANO <[email-masked]>
Subject: [Madinas] Call for adoption: draft-henry-madinas-framework

Dear all,

Confirming what was said at the meeting, we are starting a Call for Adoption of https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-henry-madinas-framework-03<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-henry-madinas-framework-03__;!!CQl3mcHX2A!VY771pC0qr_OygYGHY5UIrYhBvM-2lM6ilWp6cQ0exPd2dSHc5KuhKav3HwOVg4$>

Please let us know if you support or oppose the adoption. Likewise, please let us know if you have any comments or suggestions.

Best,

Juan-Carlos & Carlos
MADINAS chairs

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From: Qin Wu <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2021 08:47:37 +0000

Hi, WG:
I have read the latest version and support adoption of draft-henry-madinas-framework as informational RFC,
I am hoping this draft could also document some IoT related use cases, whether it is residential use case or campus, enterprise use cases.

I envision there are some good use cases in the residential setting, e.g, Only MAC address was needed to open some Smart Locks (https://cybersecuritynext.org/only-mac-address-was-needed-to-open-some-smart-locks-report/)

I am wondering how IoT device (e.g., smart lock) in the residential setting can be affected by device’s mac address sniff? Is RCM scheme better solution for them? How smart lock vendors implement RCM? Given the bad user experience to get on the home network with RCM scheme on, whether they will move away from MAC and IP address based access control and moving towards identity based access control.

When we say “To reduce the risks of correlation between a device activity and its owner, multiple vendors have started to implement Randomized and

Changing MAC addresses (RCM). ”, I want to make sure it is Mobile device vendors or OS vendors not IoT device vendor who start implement RCM, correct me, if I am wrong.

Regarding “such address change may affect the user experience and the efficiency of legitimate network operations.  ” I agree such changes will affect a lot the user experience. It is good to see privacy for end user has been improved, but it is at the cost of user experience deteriorating. I am wondering whether many of users will go through this painful onboarding process rather than abandon logging on some kind of guest network.

Last, I want to make sure there is no overlapping with use cases documented in WBA since we now position this document as use case document.

Thanks for taking my comments into consideration.

-Qin
发件人: Madinas [mailto:[email-masked]] 代表 Juan Carlos Zuniga
发送时间: 2021年11月10日 21:56
收件人: [email-masked]
抄送: Juan Carlos Zuniga <[email-masked]>; CARLOS JESUS BERNARDOS CANO <[email-masked]>
主题: [Madinas] Call for adoption: draft-henry-madinas-framework

Dear all,

Confirming what was said at the meeting, we are starting a Call for Adoption of https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-henry-madinas-framework-03

Best,

Juan-Carlos & Carlos
MADINAS chairs

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