Subject: [Monami6] ietf66 minutes

From: Nicolas Montavont <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 16:07:52 +0200

Folks,

Please find enclosed the Monami6 minutes from the IETF66.
Please feel free to comment on these if you think that they don't 
represent what was said.

Their are also available on the IETF meeting materials web page 
(https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/meeting_materials.cgi?meeting_num=66), 
with the presentation materials.

Regards,

Nicolas
Nicolas: review of 3 darfts. Review of the definition of multihomed MN mip6-analysis draft

FD: What is point 3 (one HoA and one CoA configured on different interfaces)
Bechet : Multiple HoA is multiple HA addreses ?
Nicolas : No, it is multiple Home addresses, and not necessarily different HAs

George : Bi-casting is defined as n-casting or not?
Nicolas: n-casting

Multiple CoA draft by Ruyji
-----------------

Hesham: C & R flags only for the HA?
Ruyji: yes
xx: BID - 1 byte instead of 2 bytes?

xx: Considering deployment of MIP in wireless networks, like planes &
ships with many interafces.

Vijay: When u send bulk regi, does HA create tunnels, without
veryfying all the paths?

Sri: How to verify connectivity between HA & CoA? we need to clarify

Chanwah - Mechanisms exist. MIP can use alternate CoA.

Utilizing Home and Away Interfaces Simultaneously by Benjamin??
------------------------------------------------

Hesham: McoA registers two CoAs. MN is at home and foreign network -
Why do u want to support this?

xx: e.g. Cellular & WLAN

Hesham : Should be resolved by MCoA ? => Where should it be resolved ?

Ruyji : modification is required when returning home network
What is the address in the HomeLink ? => HomeLink Prefix + UID => 2 HoA

Policy exchanges - what is in charter by Nicolas
-----------------------------------------------

Hendrik: policy vs filter rules. Filters rules are the result of policy application
monami6 - only filter rules
shim6 - only policy rules

Filter rules are identified filter ID, flow ID represents truplets,
definition is misleading filter format has to be static/dynamic &
conflicting

Hesham: policy/filter rules should be exchange by SHIM6 or other mech

Henrik: filter rules to multiple coas. define the filter rule definition
language, pf format.

Hesham : Why a protocol for all (MIP, SHIM6) ? Concepts are similar
but a generic solution may not be desirable. There's no conflict at the moment

hendrik: It may not be a good idea, but nothing tell us it is a
bad.

hesham. my point is -> general discussion level, i can't accept, at
the moment it's too complicated

Hendrik : you can define rule in the sameway

George: Two things to consider. Filter rule lanusage is binary vs text
based. Filter rule can be mipv6 or hip based

hendrik: This is the wrong trade

xx: Binary vs text - efficiency is important for some of the protocols

hendrik : can we do a comparision

Do we have expertise on Monami6 to define a language for filter rules

Is there another protocol carrying same information => 

Flow binding by Hesham
------------------------

Alex: is this format extensible?

=> Yes, by sub-option and option length

vijay : you only have 256 mobility options 
should not define everything that makes complicated

Hesham: sub options can be added

Hendrik; can u send it in both direction (from and to HA)
How do you address Some conflict resolution?

Hesham: priority field

A Scheme Fragment for Flow Distribution
-------------------------------------------

Transport and XML choices may be discussed

JMCombes : If transmitted with BU,BA, security assoc is already done,
if done differently, a new SA should be setup

Log of Jabber - monami6
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koojana has entered the room.
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[23:48]<henrik> Monami6 session is starting
[23:49]<henrik> Thierry is going through the agenda
[23:49]<[email-masked]> It is Nicolas  
[23:50]<henrik> Yes, now.
[23:51]<henrik> Slide 2 of doc summary
[23:51]<henrik> slide 3
[23:53]<henrik> Francis D asks for a clarification of item III of slide 3
[23:53]<henrik> Bechet at the mike
[23:53]<henrik> - wondering if HA is home addresses or home agents
[23:53]<henrik> slide 4
[23:54] [email-masked] has entered the room.
[23:54]<henrik> (on 'Change in requirements')
[23:54]<henrik> Slide 5 on Bicasting
[23:55]<[email-masked]> xcasting ?
[23:55]<henrik> George at the mike: Bicasting or X-casting?
[23:55]<henrik> bi- tri- etc.
[23:56]<[email-masked]> ok
[23:56]<henrik> Benjamin presenting MCoA draft status
[23:57]<[email-masked]> could people annouce their name when coming to the mike plz ?
[23:57]<koojana> Benjamin or Ruyji?
[23:57]<henrik> Sorry, Ryuji
[23:57]<henrik> Hesham S at the mike
[23:58]<henrik> George at the mike
[23:58] miaofy has entered the room.
[23:59]<henrik> Alex and George about one or two bytes for numbering the bindings
[23:59]<henrik> Sri at the mike
[00:01]<henrik> Chang Hua at the mike
[00:04]<henrik> Benjamin? about simultaneously using home link and foreign link interfaces
[00:06]<henrik> Now on slide 4
[00:07]<henrik> slide 5
[00:08]<henrik> slide 6
[00:08]<henrik> Hesham sneaking up to the mike  
[00:11]<henrik> Ryuji at the mike
[00:12]<henrik> Kent at the mike
[00:13] washad has entered the room.
[00:19]<koojana> is Hendrik's presentation available?
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[00:32]<[email-masked]> scribe ?
[00:40] washad has left the room.
[00:42] washad has entered the room.
[00:50] FDupont has left the room.
[00:50] miaofy has left the room.

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