Subject: [nfsv4] Minutes from 08/22/2006 Conference Call

From: Lisa Week <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 14:35:45 -0600

IETF NFSv4 Working Group Conference Call
August 22, 2006
Note:
1.) Please make sure to update the status of issues that you are  
working on in the Issue Tracker.
URL: http://www.nfsv4-editor.org/cgi-bin/roundup/nfsv4
2.) Attendee list is at the end of the minutes.

Agenda:
========
Review the current open issues.  We will be looking for things that  
are ready to be integrated and what should be expected to be included  
in the I-D that will be submitted at the end of this week.

Minutes:
========

Goals for -06:
Would like to have the changes that would cause a change in the .x  
file integrated into -06.

Sessions related:
-----------------
30	Trunking issues with regard to sessions				Talpey
	* To be assigned to Dave Noveck until working group discussion is held.
44	streamchannelattrs4 is not defined				Talpey
	* Need Tom's help to resolve.
45	rdmachannelattrs4 is not defined				Talpey
	* Need Tom's help to resolve.
73	Interrupting RPC's and sessions					Talpey
	* Has been assigned to Mike Eisler.
27	Provide additional sessions discussion				Talpey
	* Tom needs to provide text (this is a long laundry list of things  
to cover).
29	List of NFSv4.1 data types not complete				Talpey
	* Spencer to take this and send email about it.  Eisler commented on  
the fact that he is not sure why sessionid has to be so large (it is  
currently 16 bytes).  Why can't it just be a uint64_t?
10	Cleanup needed for referencing to previous versions of sessions	 
Talpey
	* To be assigned to Mike Eisler.  Will be cleaned up by virtue of  
the work that Mike is doing now.

26	NFS4ERR_RESOURCE						Eisler
	* Has not been started and Mike will not get to it until after -06  
is out.
31	"Sessions text, NFS4ERR_RESOURCE, and reply limits"		Eisler
	* Has not been started and Mike will not get to it until after -06  
is out.
52	NFSv4.1 client should have capability to indicate it can	Eisler
`	* Has not been started and Mike will not get to it until after -06  
is out.
72	Sessions chapter needs work to integrate it into spec		Eisler
	* Mike is in the process of editing and this will probably make it  
into -06
74	Sessions-related errors need to be added to error lists		None
	* Mike is in the process of editing and this will probably make it  
into -06

* Note: Mike would really like to get Issues # 72 and #73 done for -06.

Delegations
-----------
51	Proposed directory delegation changes regarding: 		Shepler
	* Thought to not be needed for -06, but Spencer will make sure.
78	Directory delegations needs to be explained.			Shepler
	* Not needed for -06.

ACLs
----
93	ACL algorithms necessary?					Falkner
	* Will be included in update for -06.  Lisa to provide text to  
Spencer by today or tomorrow.

pNFS
----
89	The list of NFSv4.1 operations a file-based DS MUST access 	Goodson
	*  These changes are already in -05, just need to confirm and close  
this.  Garth thinks that the list is okay.  Garth to assign the issue  
to Mike.

103	keeping the client and server layout state in sync		Halevy
108	final layoutreturn serialization				Halevy
	* Benny has sent out proposals for the above two issues.  Garth took  
a quick look and thinks they are fine.  Garth wants Dave to take a  
look.  Dave will send mail to Benny and the WG alias today.

79	pNFS Chapters need significant editing attention		Shepler
	* Spencer needs Garth's help with the modifications.  Spencer will  
contact Garth today.
94	some data servers can be meta data servers			Eisler
	* Spencer and Eisler to coordinate this due to the changes being  
done for Issue #79.

Other
-----

* Dave has said that he doesn't plan to do any work on the following  
set of issues (owned by him) this week.

101	fs_location_info encoding unnecessarily complex			Noveck
	* This would involve a .x file change, but would prefer to NOT  
include this in -06.
24	clarify which operations effect delegation recall		Noveck
46	extend fs_location_info to support arbitrary string-based 	Noveck
	* Needs more discussion...
86	Update locking-related ops because of sessions			Noveck
92	V4.0 support requirements					Noveck
97	Clear requirements on replicas' data equivalence		Noveck
	* Dave to start discussion on this...
105	Divide locking into a generic state mgt core and locking per 	Noveck
109	Explain when server needs to return NFS4ERR_DELAY		Noveck
11	cancel blocking locks						Noveck
	* Done, submitted and should go into -06.
96	Support for transparent fs split				Noveck

77	SECINFO-extensions chapters need to be integrated into spec	Eisler
80	Minor versioning chapter needs work				Eisler
	* Editing in progress
53	Add data retention support					Eisler
	* Don't think we have consensus on whether or not to add these.  If  
anything is done about this it will require a .x file change

84	Editing work for new ops and callback need to be gone over	None
	* This will need to get done...
95	Contradiction in 2nd para of GETATTR description		None
	* Dave will assign this to himself, but doesn't see this as being  
critical for -06.
88	Organizational work on attributes chapter			None
	* Need someone to organize and own the attributes section.
	* Dave will assign this to himself right now, but may try to find an  
owner for this in the future.

Question about what .x file changes may be coming out of the ACL  
meeting was asked.  The following are the expected proposals:
1.) A flag and a file attribute in support of dynamic/automatic  
inheritance
	* Covered by Issue # 112
	* ACE4_INHERITED_ACE flag
	* aclprotected attribute
2.) mask flag, attribute, whatever...
	* Covered by Issue #113
	* Sam to send email to WG summarizing the issue and possible solutions.

Spencer to open an issue to track the current discussion about  
callbacks to determine lock availability.

Attendees:
Sam Falkner - Sun
Steve Fridella - EMC
Paul Mazzurana - IBM
Tom Vanderputten - EMC
Lisa Week - Sun
Mike Eisler - NetApp
Spencer Shepler - Sun
Benny Halevy - Panasas
Dave Noveck - NetApp
Garth Goodson - NetApp
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