Subject: (ngtrans) Fw: 0:212 [00D4] - .BIZ - Pacific Root - POSSR - IDNO - ICANN Board Nominee Joanna Lane

From: "Jim Fleming" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 09:12:35 -0600

IPv6 advocates might want to thank their lucky stars that they do not have
to deal with the chaos of self-governance (yet). There is a chance to do
IPv6 right,
before the masses arrive.

-JF

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Subject: 0:212 [00D4] - .BIZ - Pacific Root - POSSR - IDNO - ICANN Board
Nominee Joanna Lane

> One of the attributes of the IPv8 approach to Internet self-governance,
> discussed
> over the past 7 years, has been the notion that people will rally around
> TLDs to
> support them and make sure they are operational. ICANN has clearly taken
the
> traditional corporate America path, of attracting large, well-funded,
> companies to
> support their Proof-of-Concept .BIZ experiments. Other people have taken a
> more
> Internet-compatible path of self-organization. Below are the 8 people who
> appear to
> be the leaders of the .BIZ Proof-of-Concept experiments that are running
in
> parallel
> with the ICANN efforts. Also included is material to help document some of
> their
> work in self-organizing.
>
> There is a tutorial here, to help explain more on the parallel
> Proof-of-Concept efforts.
> http://www.dot-biz.com/DNS101/index.html
> http://www.dot-biz.com/Registry/Proof-Of-Concept/index.html
>
>
> Jim Fleming
> http://www.DOT-BIZ.com
> http://www.Register-BIZ.com
> http://www.BIZ-Registry.com
>
>
>
>
> ------- 0:212 [00D4] - .BIZ ---------
> Leah Gallegos
> William X Walsh
> Bradley Thornton
> Joanna Lane
> Danny Younger
> Karl E. Peters
> Peter de Blanc
> Joop Teernstra
> ---------------------------------------
>
> http://root-dns.org/VueDig/VueDig_tld.php?record=NS&tld=biz
> The PacificRoot : 204.107.129.2
> VueDig Results : Answer = 6 : Authority = 0 : Additional = 6.
> biz. 15M IN NS nomad.tallship.net.
> biz. 15M IN NS falcon.tallship.net.
> biz. 15M IN NS condor.tallship.net.
> biz. 15M IN NS rectum.tallship.net.
> biz. 15M IN NS ns1.hypa.net.
> biz. 15M IN NS ns2.hypa.net.
>
>
http://listserver.isocnz.org.nz/pipermail/idno-discuss/2001-November/001538.
> html
> >
> > Mr Walsh IS the chief developer of POSSR - The PacificRoot Open Source
> > Shared Registry system -
> ....
> >
> > Bradley D. Thornton
> > Chief Technology Officer
> > The PacificRoot/Joint Technologies Ltd.
> > http://www.PacificRoot.com
> > http://www.JointTech.com
> >
>
>
http://listserver.isocnz.org.nz/pipermail/idno-discuss/2001-November/001528.
> html
http://listserver.isocnz.org.nz/pipermail/idno-discuss/2001-November/001520.
> html
> L Gallegos idno-discuss at idno.org
> Sat, 10 Nov 2001 01:16:23 -0500
> "I am still a "guest."  The reason I have not joined is the disharmony"
> ----------
>
http://listserver.isocnz.org.nz/pipermail/idno-discuss/2001-November/001534.
> html
> > http://pacificroot.com/collider/
> >
> > "We ask for your assistance in this urgent matter. If you or your staff
> > would like more information or if you have any questions, you can
contact
> > Leah Gallegos at 757-631-9838 or by e-mail at [email-masked] or
> > [email-masked].
> >
> > Respectfully Signed:
> > Leah Gallegos
> > President, AtlanticRoot Network, Inc.
> > (757)-631-9838
> > [email-masked]
> >
> > Attachments: Signatories
> > cc: Eric Menge, Small Business Administration
>
>
http://listserver.isocnz.org.nz/pipermail/idno-discuss/2001-November/001536.
> html
http://listserver.isocnz.org.nz/pipermail/idno-discuss/2001-November/001537.
> html
> http://www.dnso.org/elections/2001.DNSO-ICANN-nominees.html
> Joanna Lane
> Nominated by Danny Younger
> 2001/08/07 Joanna Lane, endorsement by Meinrad Nell
> 2001/08/07 Joanna Lane, endorsement by Chris McElroy
> 2001/08/08 Joanna Lane, endorsement by Roeland Martinus Johanes Meyer
> 2001/08/08 Joanna Lane, endorsement by Marc Schneiders
> 2001/08/08 Joanna Lane, endorsement by Earl Heather
> 2001/08/10 Joanna Lane, endorsement by William X Walsh
> 2001/08/10 Joanna Lane, endorsement by Paul M. Kane
> 2001/08/10 Joanna Lane, endorsement by William S. Lovell
> 2001/08/13 Joanna Lane, endorsement by Jackie McKay
> 2001/08/13 Joanna Lane, endorsement by Christopher Wilkins
> 2001/08/13 Joanna Lane, endorsement by Rob Juneau
> 2001/08/15 Joanna Lane, endorsement by Leah Gallegos
> 2001/08/15 Joanna Lane, endorsement by Serge Guissani
> 2001/08/17 Joanna Lane, endorsement by Joop Teernstra
> 2001/08/19 Joanna Lane, endorsement by Rod Dixon
> 2001/08/19 Joanna Lane, endorsement by Jefsey Morfin
> 2001/08/20 Joanna Lane, endorsement by Peter de Blanc
> 2001/08/21 Joanna Lane, endorsement by Annette Leung
> 2001/08/23 Joanna Lane, endorsement by Sotiris Sotiropoulos
> 2001/08/27 Joanna Lane, endorsement by Dominique Dhoosche
> 2001/08/27 Joanna Lane, endorsement by Roberto Gaetano
>
>
>
http://listserver.isocnz.org.nz/pipermail/idno-discuss/2001-November/001581.
> html
> Re[2]: [Idno-discuss] POSSR - The PacificRoot Open Source Shared Registry
> system
> William X Walsh idno-discuss at idno.org
> Sun, 11 Nov 2001 01:51:44 -0800
> Saturday, Saturday, November 10, 2001, 10:46:11 PM, Joop Teernstra wrote:
>
> > On 13:29 10/11/01 -0800, William X Walsh said:
>
> >><Yawn>
> >>
> >>None of which has anything to do with the IDNO, Jimmy.
>
> > The fact that you and Thornton, with the help of Peters and Gardner
tried
> > to hijack the IDNO makes it very relevant here.
>
> > So you are not denying that you work for Bradley Thornton?
>
> > What about all your anti-alternate roots rhetoric on the GA list?
>
>
> <yawn>
>
> I do not work FOR Bradley Thornton, Joop.
>
> I was contracted to do a contract programming job by the company that
> employs Bradley Thornton, and I've never let my personal views
> interfere with what programming jobs I will take on.
>
> They hired me in spite of my rather loud and negative views of the
> alt.root community and their future.  One of the conditions of that
> was that it be understood that I was under no obligation to silence my
> views, and I haven't.
>
> So Joop, stick to things that are relevant.  The IDNO incidents
> started many years ago, my contract work with Bradley for the
> development of a shared registration system happened just this year.
>
> And frankly, Joop, none of it is any of your damn business.
>
> So you can take your paranoid little accusations, fold them into tight
> corners, and stuff them up your ass.
>
> --
> Best regards,
> William X Walsh <[email-masked]>
>
> I'm sorry I won't see the outcome of your experiment. I suspect it will be
> the hardest tyranny imaginable; majority rule gives the ruthless strong
man
> plenty of elbow room to oppress his fellows.
> --Lazurus Long
>
> Or, when the time comes, will you kid yourself that it is really your duty
> to hang on? If a man has the temperament for power -- and you have or you
> wouldn't be where you are -- he finds it hard to abdicate.
> --Lazurus Long
>
> --
> EFF SLAMS MAPS and similar services:
> http://www.eff.org/effector/HTML/effect14.31.html#II
> SafeSurf Warns Public about MAPS Censorship
> http://www.safesurf.com/press/press27.htm
> --
>
> [Idno-discuss] POSSR - The PacificRoot Open Source Shared Registry system
> Joop Teernstra idno-discuss at idno.org
> Sun, 11 Nov 2001 19:46:11 +1300
>
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> ----
>
> On 13:29 10/11/01 -0800, William X Walsh said:
>
> ><Yawn>
> >
> >None of which has anything to do with the IDNO, Jimmy.
>
> The fact that you and Thornton, with the help of Peters and Gardner tried
> to hijack the IDNO makes it very relevant here.
>
> So you are not denying that you work for Bradley Thornton?
>
> What about all your anti-alternate roots rhetoric on the GA list?
>
>
http://listserver.isocnz.org.nz/pipermail/idno-discuss/2001-November/001585.
> html
> [Idno-discuss] POSSR - The PacificRoot Open Source SharedRegistry system
> Karl E. Peters idno-discuss at idno.org
> Sun, 11 Nov 2001 07:46:44 -0500
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
> ----
>
> Joop Teernstra,
>     You had best choose your battles a little more carefully, Joop!!!
There
> is one PROVEN hi-jacking of the CA/IDNO and that was by its bootstrap in a
> grand illusion of turning power over to a democratically elected steering
> committee and then declaring it ended when you found we would actually
make
> decisions you had not scripted!
>     As you will remember, this rift was started exactly then. If you
really
> want to make a mess of this list, you can make this accusation again and
all
> the proof of your indiscretions will be trotted out again. If you think
that
> would make a good scene going into MDR, just go right ahead.
>     If you think better of it, perhaps an apology would be in order. (You
> may
> have seriously disagreed with something the Steering Committee did or was
> doing, but we were elected, YOU WERE NOT!!!)
>
> VERY sincerely yours,
> Karl E. Peters
>
> Joop Teernstra wrote:
>
> > The fact that you and Thornton, with the help of Peters and Gardner
tried
> > to hijack the IDNO makes it very relevant here.
> >
> > So you are not denying that you work for Bradley Thornton?
> >
> > What about all your anti-alternate roots rhetoric on the GA list?
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Idno-discuss mailing list
> > [email-masked]
> > http://listserver.isocnz.org.nz/mailman/listinfo/idno-discuss
>
>
http://listserver.isocnz.org.nz/pipermail/idno-discuss/2001-November/001582.
> html
> [Idno-discuss] Urgent - IDNO rep at MdR
> Joop Teernstra idno-discuss at idno.org
> Sun, 11 Nov 2001 22:45:49 +1300
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
> ----
>
> On 15:55 10/11/01 -0400, Joanna Lane said:
> >  Should nobody from the IDNO step foward, then the Chair
> >of the GA, Danny Younger, has indicated he is willing to read it out at
the
> >appointed time on the IDNO's behalf.
>
> Under the circumstances it woud be best to rely on Danny.
>
> Joop Cousteau's address is "Operations Group" <[email-masked]>  but I have
> not seen his public offer here on the list to read the statement.
>
> In fact he unsubscribed from the list.
>
> To associate ourselves with  Bradley Thornton would be a grave mistake
IMO.
>
> From: "Bradley D. Thornton" <[email-masked]>
> To: "'TLDA Operations list'" <[email-masked]>
> Cc: "'TLDA Members List'" <[email-masked]>,
>          "'Root Exchange'" <[email-masked]>, <[email-masked]>,
>          <[email-masked]>
> Subject: [ORSC.DOMAIN-POLICY] FYI: Status of The PacificRoot Registry
> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 05:39:29 -0700
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> This message has been cc'd to the TLDA Members, Public, and other  lists
as
> a courtesy. Most future announcements regarding Registry and Root
operations
> will be posted Only to the TLDA Operations list, which you can subscribe
to
> at http://TLDA.org/lists or
> http://nomad.tallship.net/mailman/listinfo/operations
>
> Effective immediately, The PacificRoot Registry has permanently ceased
> operations of it's POSSR I system.
>
> Registrants with existing domain registrations will not be able to create
> new domains or manage their existing domains. New user accounts cannot be
> created either.
>
> The PacificRoot Registry will remain closed until such time as the
migration
> of all data to the POSSR II system has been completed. This outage is
> expected to last no longer than 24 - 48 hours.
>
> Since The PacificRoot will soon be ceasing all operations as a registrar,
> registrants can expect to receive notification in the coming weeks as to
> which PARs their accounts have been transferred to, with appropriate links
> to the location of a PAR where they can manage and renew their domain
> registrations. Prior to such time as registrants accounts are transfered
to
> various PARs, and at any subsequent time, registrants will have the
> opportunity to transfer their accounts to any PAR they choose, subject to
> acceptance by the PAR the registrant decides upon.
>
> Please note that this does not affect root operations or the resolution of
> any TLDs in the Inclusive Name Space.
>
> POSSR II client code will be available (for free) shortly at
> http://www.POSSR.com, and contracts for those who wish to become
PacificRoot
> Accredited Registrars (PARs) are now available for download and review at
> http://www.POSSR.com/contracts/par.pdf. PARs will need to sign separate
> Licensing Agreements for the respective TLDs that they seek to offer
> registration services for, and those licenses are being prepared by the
> respective TLD Holders for TLDs that will be carried in The PacificRoot's
> POSSR II system.
>
> The PacificRoot is not accepting new TLDs for inclusion in the Registry at
> this time, but will be shortly. TLD Holders seeking to have thier TLDs
> included in the system must first develop a license for PARs to carry
their
> TLDs and once the licenses are approved by The PacificRoot the TLD holders
> may enter into a registry agreement with The PacificRoot for each
respective
> TLD. Please continue to check back at http://www.POSSR.com or contact our
> Hostmaster Team at [email-masked]. TLDs with Sunrise
provisions
> will not be accepted into the registry, and all SLD registrations occuring
> with PARs will be live, on an FCFS basis. TLD Holders may, at their
option,
> exclude SLD strings from the availablle pool of domains names from their
own
> management interface.
>
> gTLD Holders and ccTLD Holders/Managers alike are welcome to have their
TLDs
> carried in POSSR. it is expected and understood that Many ccTLDs may wish
to
> provide for registrations in an exclusive manner, as PARs themselves.
>
> gTLD Holders seeking to have thier TLDs included in The PacificRoot's
POSSR
> system are strongly encouraged to secure a membership with the TLDA
> (http://www.TLDA.org) prior to filing any applications with The
PacificRoot
> Registry for inclusion in POSSR. ccTLDs are exempt from any such
> requirements or recommendations.
>
> Finally, we would like to take this opportunity to thank you all for your
> perserverence, support, and also for making The PacificRoot the
> authoritative root of choice for ISPs and subscribers alike the whole
world
> over :)
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Bradley D. Thornton
> Chief Technology Officer
> The PacificRoot / Joint Technologies, Ltd.
> http://www.PacificRoot.com
> [email-masked]
>
> ------
> http://root-dns.org/VueDig/VueDig_tld.php?record=NS&tld=biz
> NS Server Responses :
>
> AlterNIC : 160.79.129.192
> VueDig Results : Answer = 6 : Authority = 0 : Additional = 6.
> biz. 5d10h51m13s IN NS a.gtld.biz.
> biz. 5d10h51m13s IN NS b.gtld.biz.
> biz. 5d10h51m13s IN NS c.gtld.biz.
> biz. 5d10h51m13s IN NS d.gtld.biz.
> biz. 5d10h51m13s IN NS e.gtld.biz.
> biz. 5d10h51m13s IN NS f.gtld.biz.
>
> Australian Root Server Confederation : 203.21.205.2
> VueDig Results : Answer = 0 : Authority = 1 : Additional = 0.
> No records found.
>
> Business Oriented Root Network : 213.70.103.18
> VueDig Results : Answer = 2 : Authority = 0 : Additional = 2.
> biz. 2D IN NS ns.icann.org.
> biz. 2D IN NS ns.ripe.net.
>
> Common Interest Network Information Center Society : 216.15.192.130
> VueDig Results : Answer = 2 : Authority = 0 : Additional = 2.
> biz. 1d23h46m40s IN NS ns.icann.org.
> biz. 1d23h46m40s IN NS ns.ripe.net.
>
> i-DNS.net International : 208.184.174.7
> VueDig Results : Answer = 4 : Authority = 0 : Additional = 4.
> biz. 2D IN NS D.GTLD.biz.
> biz. 2D IN NS A.GTLD.biz.
> biz. 2D IN NS B.GTLD.biz.
> biz. 2D IN NS C.GTLD.biz.
>
> Legacy Root Servers : 198.41.0.4
> VueDig Results : Answer = 4 : Authority = 0 : Additional = 4.
> biz. 2D IN NS A.GTLD.biz.
> biz. 2D IN NS B.GTLD.biz.
> biz. 2D IN NS C.GTLD.biz.
> biz. 2D IN NS D.GTLD.biz.
>
> Name.Space : 209.48.2.11
> VueDig Results : Answer = 0 : Authority = 1 : Additional = 0.
> No records found.
>
> New.net Inc : 206.132.100.42
> VueDig Results : Answer = 0 : Authority = 4 : Additional = 4.
> No records found.
>
> North American Root Server Confederation : 216.129.136.8
> Result = No Response
>
> The OpenNIC Project : 131.161.247.226
> VueDig Results : Answer = 4 : Authority = 0 : Additional = 4.
> biz. 2D IN NS ns3-pacroot.opennic.glue.
> biz. 2D IN NS ns4-pacroot.opennic.glue.
> biz. 2D IN NS ns1-pacroot.opennic.glue.
> biz. 2D IN NS ns2-pacroot.opennic.glue.
>
> Open Root Server Confederation : 199.166.24.1
> VueDig Results : Answer = 6 : Authority = 0 : Additional = 6.
> biz. 2D IN NS falcon.tallship.net.
> biz. 2D IN NS ns1.hypa.net.
> biz. 2D IN NS ns2.hypa.net.
> biz. 2D IN NS nomad.tallship.net.
> biz. 2D IN NS rectum.tallship.net.
> biz. 2D IN NS condor.tallship.net.
>
> The Internet Namespace Cooperative : 64.6.65.10
> VueDig Results : Answer = 3 : Authority = 0 : Additional = 3.
> biz. 1W IN NS A.GTLD.biz.
> biz. 1W IN NS B.GTLD.biz.
> biz. 1W IN NS C.GTLD.biz.
>
> The PacificRoot : 204.107.129.2
> VueDig Results : Answer = 6 : Authority = 0 : Additional = 6.
> biz. 15M IN NS nomad.tallship.net.
> biz. 15M IN NS falcon.tallship.net.
> biz. 15M IN NS condor.tallship.net.
> biz. 15M IN NS rectum.tallship.net.
> biz. 15M IN NS ns1.hypa.net.
> biz. 15M IN NS ns2.hypa.net.
>
> The Universal Registry : 167.216.137.20
> Result = No Response
> -----------------------------------------------------------
>