Subject: Re: [nvo3-dt-encap] NVO3 Encap Design Team Weekly Sync

From: Sami Boutros <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 00:21:22 +0000

Is the meeting on tomorrow?

Thanks,

Sami
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Subject: NVO3 Encap Design Team Weekly Sync
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Sorry for being late on this. I have been struggling on the home front with both my kids and wife down with flu.
I am setting up the regular 2 hour sync, based on preferred time in doodle. If an alternative method like WebEx is preferred for the online call, then please set it up as I only have access to Skype.
Thanks
Pankaj

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From: Pankaj Garg <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 00:24:32 +0000

Is there anything we want to discuss? Otherwise I can cancel it. In general I guess, once our recommendation is adopted, we can finalize the DT draft and conclude the group?

From: Sami Boutros [mailto:[email-masked]]
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Subject: Re: NVO3 Encap Design Team Weekly Sync

Thanks,

Sami

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From: "Ganga, Ilango S" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 01:37:27 +0000

Can we meet for 30mins, I would like to go over the recommendations in the DT draft to get clarifications.

From: Pankaj Garg [mailto:[email-masked]]
Sent: Monday, March 6, 2017 4:25 PM
To: Sami Boutros <[email-masked]>; [email-masked]; Sam Aldrin <[email-masked]>; Erik Nordmark <[email-masked]>; Michael Smith (michsmit) <[email-masked]>; Ganga, Ilango S <[email-masked]>
Subject: RE: NVO3 Encap Design Team Weekly Sync

From: Sami Boutros [mailto:[email-masked]]
Sent: Monday, March 6, 2017 4:21 PM
To: Pankaj Garg <[email-masked]<mailto:[email-masked]>>; [email-masked]<mailto:[email-masked]>; Sam Aldrin <[email-masked]<mailto:[email-masked]>>; Erik Nordmark <[email-masked]<mailto:[email-masked]>>; Michael Smith (michsmit) <[email-masked]<mailto:[email-masked]>>; Ganga, Ilango S <[email-masked]<mailto:[email-masked]>>
Subject: Re: NVO3 Encap Design Team Weekly Sync

Thanks,

Sami

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From: Erik Nordmark <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 07:59:22 -0800

Also, are there any suggested edits with clarifications that we want to 
put in an -01 draft before the IETF deadline?

Thanks,
    Erik

On 3/6/17 5:37 PM, Ganga, Ilango S wrote:
> *From:* Pankaj Garg [mailto:[email-masked]]
> *Sent:* Monday, March 6, 2017 4:25 PM
> *To:* Sami Boutros <[email-masked]>; [email-masked]; Sam 
> Aldrin <[email-masked]>; Erik Nordmark <[email-masked]>; 
> Michael Smith (michsmit) <[email-masked]>; Ganga, Ilango S 
> <[email-masked]>
> *Subject:* RE: NVO3 Encap Design Team Weekly Sync
>
> Is there anything we want to discuss? Otherwise I can cancel it. In 
> general I guess, once our recommendation is adopted, we can finalize 
> the DT draft and conclude the group?
>
> *From:* Sami Boutros [mailto:[email-masked]]
> *Sent:* Monday, March 6, 2017 4:21 PM
> *To:* Pankaj Garg <[email-masked] 
> <mailto:[email-masked]>>; [email-masked] 
> <mailto:[email-masked]>; Sam Aldrin <[email-masked] 
> <mailto:[email-masked]>>; Erik Nordmark <[email-masked] 
> <mailto:[email-masked]>>; Michael Smith (michsmit) 
> <[email-masked] <mailto:[email-masked]>>; Ganga, Ilango S 
> <[email-masked] <mailto:[email-masked]>>
> *Subject:* Re: NVO3 Encap Design Team Weekly Sync
>
> *From: [email-masked] <mailto:[email-masked]>
> *When: *8:00 AM - 10:00 AM March 7, 2017
> *Subject: *NVO3 Encap Design Team Weekly Sync
> *Location: *Skype Meeting
>
> Sorry for being late on this. I have been struggling on the home front 
> with both my kids and wife down with flu.
>
> I am setting up the regular 2 hour sync, based on preferred time in 
> doodle. If an alternative method like WebEx is preferred for the 
> online call, then please set it up as I only have access to Skype.
>
> Thanks
>
> Pankaj
>
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From: Pankaj Garg <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 16:06:51 +0000

I joined from phone, it doesn't let me admit anyone. I can be online via laptop in 10mins or can someone setup WebEx?
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From: Erik Nordmark <[email-masked]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2017 7:59:22 AM
To: Ganga, Ilango S; Pankaj Garg; Sami Boutros; [email-masked]; Sam Aldrin; Erik Nordmark; Michael Smith (michsmit)
Subject: Re: [nvo3-dt-encap] NVO3 Encap Design Team Weekly Sync

Thanks,
    Erik

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From: Sami Boutros <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 16:08:49 +0000

Hi Ilango,

I’m not sure if we really need to update the Geneve draft with any recommendations given that we are not planning to put a limit on the max option length supported by the platform.

May be the only recommendation is to put some text on how control plane can limit the total options length and force an option order in the geneve draft and possibly refer to our dt-encap draft.

Thanks,

Sami
From: "Ganga, Ilango S" <[email-masked]<mailto:[email-masked]>>
Date: Monday, March 6, 2017 at 5:37 PM
To: Pankaj Garg <[email-masked]<mailto:[email-masked]>>, Sami Boutros <[email-masked]<mailto:[email-masked]>>, "[email-masked]<mailto:[email-masked]>" <[email-masked]<mailto:[email-masked]>>, Sam Aldrin <[email-masked]<mailto:[email-masked]>>, Erik Nordmark <[email-masked]<mailto:[email-masked]>>, "Michael Smith (michsmit)" <[email-masked]<mailto:[email-masked]>>
Subject: RE: NVO3 Encap Design Team Weekly Sync

From: Pankaj Garg [mailto:[email-masked]]
Sent: Monday, March 6, 2017 4:25 PM
To: Sami Boutros <[email-masked]<mailto:[email-masked]>>; [email-masked]<mailto:[email-masked]>; Sam Aldrin <[email-masked]<mailto:[email-masked]>>; Erik Nordmark <[email-masked]<mailto:[email-masked]>>; Michael Smith (michsmit) <[email-masked]<mailto:[email-masked]>>; Ganga, Ilango S <[email-masked]<mailto:[email-masked]>>
Subject: RE: NVO3 Encap Design Team Weekly Sync

Thanks,

Sami

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From: "Ganga, Ilango S" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 16:09:05 +0000

Ok, I can set up a Skype call.

From: Pankaj Garg [mailto:[email-masked]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2017 8:07 AM
To: Erik Nordmark <[email-masked]>; Ganga, Ilango S <[email-masked]>; Sami Boutros <[email-masked]>; [email-masked]; Sam Aldrin <[email-masked]>; Erik Nordmark <[email-masked]>; Michael Smith (michsmit) <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [nvo3-dt-encap] NVO3 Encap Design Team Weekly Sync

I joined from phone, it doesn't let me admit anyone. I can be online via laptop in 10mins or can someone setup WebEx?
________________________________
From: Erik Nordmark <[email-masked]<mailto:[email-masked]>>
Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2017 7:59:22 AM
To: Ganga, Ilango S; Pankaj Garg; Sami Boutros; [email-masked]<mailto:[email-masked]>; Sam Aldrin; Erik Nordmark; Michael Smith (michsmit)
Subject: Re: [nvo3-dt-encap] NVO3 Encap Design Team Weekly Sync

Thanks,
    Erik

On 3/6/17 5:37 PM, Ganga, Ilango S wrote:
> *To:* Sami Boutros <[email-masked]<mailto:[email-masked]>>; [email-masked]<mailto:[email-masked]>; Sam
> Aldrin <[email-masked]<mailto:[email-masked]>>; Erik Nordmark <[email-masked]<mailto:[email-masked]>>;
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> <[email-masked]<mailto:[email-masked]>>
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> <mailto:[email-masked]>; Sam Aldrin <[email-masked]
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From: Sami Boutros <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 16:14:06 +0000

Yes, IMO we need some edits. 

1- To update the recommendations to Geneve, not to require a total option length of 64 bytes.
2- To add in the use case section that there is a strong requirement to support variable length option with possible different subtypes.
3- To clarify little more that ordered fixed length TLV can be achieved using a control plane, and this will be equivalent to bit-maps.

Thanks,

Sami

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From: Sam Aldrin <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 08:09:44 -0800

I dialed into the mtg and dropped off after 10min as no one joined.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 7, 2017, at 7:59 AM, Erik Nordmark <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> 
> Also, are there any suggested edits with clarifications that we want to put in an -01 draft before the IETF deadline?
> 
> Thanks,
>   Erik
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>> *To:* Sami Boutros <[email-masked]>; [email-masked]; Sam Aldrin <[email-masked]>; Erik Nordmark <[email-masked]>; Michael Smith (michsmit) <[email-masked]>; Ganga, Ilango S <[email-masked]>
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From: "Ganga, Ilango S" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 16:14:07 +0000

I sent out Skype dial in invite from my calendar. Please join the call. Thanks -Ilango.

From: nvo3-dt-encap [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Ganga, Ilango S
Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2017 8:09 AM
To: Pankaj Garg <[email-masked]>; Erik Nordmark <[email-masked]>; Sami Boutros <[email-masked]>; [email-masked]; Sam Aldrin <[email-masked]>; Erik Nordmark <[email-masked]>; Michael Smith (michsmit) <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [nvo3-dt-encap] NVO3 Encap Design Team Weekly Sync

From: Pankaj Garg [mailto:[email-masked]]
Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2017 8:07 AM
To: Erik Nordmark <[email-masked]<mailto:[email-masked]>>; Ganga, Ilango S <[email-masked]<mailto:[email-masked]>>; Sami Boutros <[email-masked]<mailto:[email-masked]>>; [email-masked]<mailto:[email-masked]>; Sam Aldrin <[email-masked]<mailto:[email-masked]>>; Erik Nordmark <[email-masked]<mailto:[email-masked]>>; Michael Smith (michsmit) <[email-masked]<mailto:[email-masked]>>
Subject: Re: [nvo3-dt-encap] NVO3 Encap Design Team Weekly Sync

Thanks,
    Erik

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From: Erik Nordmark <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 08:40:20 -0800

I started the joining process at 7:58; I gave up at 8:35.
Two separate skype for meetings (got into the lobby for the first one); 
tried with 3 different browsers. Tried installing the plugin in Safari 
(which falls flat on its face).

Instead of spending 37 minutes in this not-ready-for-prime-time service 
we could have had a useful meeting.

Does this work for anybody else running Chrome on a MacBook?

Seems like every other time it is completely hosed.
Perhaps rebooting would help, but I don't do that until there is a 
kernel security patch for MacOS.

Just so I'm not too subtle, I will never again spend >30 minutes o this 
"Skype Meetings App".

Cheers,
     Erik

On 3/7/17 8:14 AM, Ganga, Ilango S wrote:
>
> I sent out Skype dial in invite from my calendar. Please join the 
> call. Thanks –Ilango.
>
> *From:*nvo3-dt-encap [mailto:[email-masked]] *On 
> Behalf Of *Ganga, Ilango S
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 7, 2017 8:09 AM
> *To:* Pankaj Garg <[email-masked]>; Erik Nordmark 
> <[email-masked]>; Sami Boutros <[email-masked]>; 
> [email-masked]; Sam Aldrin <[email-masked]>; Erik 
> Nordmark <[email-masked]>; Michael Smith (michsmit) 
> <[email-masked]>
> *Subject:* Re: [nvo3-dt-encap] NVO3 Encap Design Team Weekly Sync
>
> *From:*Pankaj Garg [mailto:[email-masked]]
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 7, 2017 8:07 AM
> *To:* Erik Nordmark <[email-masked] <mailto:[email-masked]>>; 
> Ganga, Ilango S <[email-masked] 
> <mailto:[email-masked]>>; Sami Boutros <[email-masked] 
> <mailto:[email-masked]>>; [email-masked] 
> <[email-masked] <mailto:[email-masked]>>
> *Subject:* Re: [nvo3-dt-encap] NVO3 Encap Design Team Weekly Sync
>
> I joined from phone, it doesn't let me admit anyone. I can be online 
> via laptop in 10mins or can someone setup WebEx?
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:*Erik Nordmark <[email-masked] <mailto:[email-masked]>>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 7, 2017 7:59:22 AM
> *To:* Ganga, Ilango S; Pankaj Garg; Sami Boutros; 
> [email-masked] <mailto:[email-masked]>; Sam Aldrin; 
> Erik Nordmark; Michael Smith (michsmit)
> *Subject:* Re: [nvo3-dt-encap] NVO3 Encap Design Team Weekly Sync
>
>
> > *To:* Sami Boutros <[email-masked] 
> <mailto:[email-masked]>>; [email-masked] 
> <mailto:[email-masked]>; Sam
> > Aldrin <[email-masked] <mailto:[email-masked]>>; Erik 
> Nordmark <[email-masked] <mailto:[email-masked]>>;
> > Michael Smith (michsmit) <[email-masked] 
> <mailto:[email-masked]>>; Ganga, Ilango S
> <mailto:[email-masked]%20%0b>> <mailto:[email-masked]>>; 
> [email-masked] <mailto:[email-masked]>
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> <mailto:[email-masked]>
> <mailto:[email-masked]>
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From: Erik Nordmark <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 09:18:51 -0800

> 3- To clarify little more that ordered fixed length TLV can be achieved using a control plane, and this will be equivalent to bit-maps.

Sounds good.

However, bananas and apples are not equivalent AFAIK, so you need some 
more clear wording for the last item.

Thanks,
     Erik

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From: Erik Nordmark <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 22:48:10 -0800

On 3/7/17 8:08 AM, Sami Boutros wrote:
> Hi Ilango,
>
> I’m not sure if we really need to update the Geneve draft with any 
> recommendations given that we are not planning to put a limit on the 
> max option length supported by the platform.
>
> May be the only recommendation is to put some text on how control 
> plane can limit the total options length and force an option order in 
> the geneve draft and possibly refer to our dt-encap draft.

Shouldn't the Geneve document specify the requirement that a sender 
needs to be able to put different subsets of options in addition to the 
ordering requirement, so that a control plane can influence it?
The Geneve draft could specify that the subset and order should be 
configurable for each remote NVE in the absence of a protocol control plane.

    Erik

> To: Pankaj Garg <[email-masked] 
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> <mailto:[email-masked]>" <[email-masked] 
> <mailto:[email-masked]>>, Sam Aldrin <[email-masked] 
> <mailto:[email-masked]>>, Erik Nordmark <[email-masked] 
> <mailto:[email-masked]>>, "Michael Smith (michsmit)" 
> *To:* Sami Boutros <[email-masked] <mailto:[email-masked]>>; 
> [email-masked] <mailto:[email-masked]>; Sam Aldrin 
> <[email-masked] <mailto:[email-masked]>>; Erik Nordmark 
> <[email-masked] <mailto:[email-masked]>>; Michael Smith 
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From: Erik Nordmark <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 09:18:51 -0800

Sounds good.

Thanks,
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From: Erik Nordmark <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 08:40:20 -0800

Cheers,
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From: Sami Boutros <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2017 14:47:25 +0000

Here is what I updated the draft with for recommendation.

We recommend the following enhancements to Geneve to address shortcomings to make it more suitable to hardware and yet provide the flexibility for software:

We would propose a text such as, TLV processing may not be easy processed in TCAM. There may be some critical information such as secure hash that must get processed at lowest latency. A control plane can negotiate a subset of option TLVs and guarantee certain TLV ordering, as well can limit the total number of option TLVs present in the packet, to allow hardware capable of processing one or few options TLV in TCAM. Hence, the control planes defined today need to add the ability to describe the supported TLVs subset and their order.

The Geneve draft could specify that the subset and order of option TLVs should be configurable for each remote NVE in the absence of a protocol control plane.

Thanks,

Sami

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From: "Ganga, Ilango S" <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2017 01:05:22 +0000

Hi Sami,

Thanks, I have few inputs on the suggested text, I will send it by Friday AM.

Regards,
Ilango

-----Original Message-----
From: Sami Boutros [mailto:[email-masked]] 
Sent: Thursday, March 9, 2017 4:55 PM
To: Erik Nordmark <[email-masked]>; Erik Nordmark <[email-masked]>; Ganga, Ilango S <[email-masked]>; Pankaj Garg <[email-masked]>; [email-masked]; Sam Aldrin <[email-masked]>; Michael Smith (michsmit) <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [nvo3-dt-encap] NVO3 Encap Design Team Weekly Sync

Hi Guys,

Here is the suggested text for point 3 below.

4. We compared the TLV vs Bit-fields style extension and it was deemed that parsing both TLV and bit-fields is expensive and while bit-fields may be simpler to parse, it is also more restrictive and requires guessing which extensions will be widely implemented so they can get early bit assignments for efficiency, as well Bit-fields are not flexible enough to address the requirement of variable length and different subtypes of the same option. While TLV are more flexible, a control plane can restrict the number of option TLVs as well the order and size of the TLVs to make it simpler for a data plane implementation to handle.

As well added for point 2 the following:

The following use cases for extensions shows that there is a strong requirement to support variable length extensions with possible different subtypes.

And for point 1:

Please let me know if you are good with the changes and I will submit the 01 version before the cut-off.

Thanks,

Sami

On 3/7/17, 9:18 AM, "Erik Nordmark" <[email-masked]> wrote:

>>> Also, are there any suggested edits with clarifications that we want 
>>> to put in an -01 draft before the IETF deadline?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>     Erik
>>>
>>>> *To:* Sami Boutros <[email-masked]>; [email-masked]; 
>>>> Sam Aldrin <[email-masked]>; Erik Nordmark 
>>>> <[email-masked]>; Michael Smith (michsmit) 
>>>> <[email-masked]>; Ganga, Ilango S <[email-masked]>
>>>> general I guess, once our recommendation is adopted, we can 
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>>>>
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From: Sami Boutros <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2017 00:55:19 +0000

Hi Guys,

And for point 1:

Thanks,

Sami

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From: "Ganga, Ilango S" <[email-masked]>
Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2017 18:20:46 +0000

Hi Sami,

Here is a proposed text for Point 1: 
This suggested text below keeps the same message without getting too much into implementation details, as there are multiple ways for data plane implementations.  I borrowed a sentence from your point 3 below.

Suggested text for point 1:

We recommend the following enhancements to Geneve to make it more suitable to hardware and yet provide the flexibility for software:

We would propose a text such as, while TLV are more flexible, a control plane can restrict the number of option TLVs as well the order and size of the TLVs to make it simpler for a data plane implementation in software or hardware to handle. For example, there may be some critical information such as secure hash that must be processed in certain order at lowest latency.

A control plane can negotiate a subset of option TLVs and certain TLV ordering, as well can limit the total number of option TLVs present in the packet, for example, to allow hardware capable of processing fewer options. Hence, the control planes need to have the ability to describe the supported TLVs subset and their order.

Your other text for points 2 and 3 look fine.

Regards,
Ilango

-----Original Message-----
From: Sami Boutros [mailto:[email-masked]] 
Sent: Thursday, March 9, 2017 4:55 PM
To: Erik Nordmark <[email-masked]>; Erik Nordmark <[email-masked]>; Ganga, Ilango S <[email-masked]>; Pankaj Garg <[email-masked]>; [email-masked]; Sam Aldrin <[email-masked]>; Michael Smith (michsmit) <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [nvo3-dt-encap] NVO3 Encap Design Team Weekly Sync

Hi Guys,

And for point 1:

Thanks,

Sami

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From: Sami Boutros <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2017 19:30:03 +0000

Hi Ilango et all,

Please find attached the draft updated with Ilango comments.

If all good, I will submit it tomorrow before the cut off.

Thanks,

Sami

On 3/10/17, 10:20 AM, "nvo3-dt-encap on behalf of Ganga, Ilango S" <[email-masked] on behalf of [email-masked]> wrote:

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From: "Ganga, Ilango S" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2017 15:45:10 +0000

Hi Sami,

I reviewed the draft 01 and it looks good. Thanks for updating the document.

Regards,
Ilango

-----Original Message-----
From: Sami Boutros [mailto:[email-masked]] 
Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 12:30 PM
To: Ganga, Ilango S <[email-masked]>; Erik Nordmark <[email-masked]>; Erik Nordmark <[email-masked]>; Pankaj Garg <[email-masked]>; [email-masked]; Sam Aldrin <[email-masked]>; Michael Smith (michsmit) <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [nvo3-dt-encap] NVO3 Encap Design Team Weekly Sync

Hi Ilango et all,

Thanks,

Sami

On 3/10/17, 10:20 AM, "nvo3-dt-encap on behalf of Ganga, Ilango S" <[email-masked] on behalf of [email-masked]> wrote:

>To: Erik Nordmark <[email-masked]>; Erik Nordmark 
><[email-masked]>; Ganga, Ilango S <[email-masked]>; 
>Pankaj Garg <[email-masked]>; [email-masked]; Sam Aldrin 
><[email-masked]>; Michael Smith (michsmit) <[email-masked]>
>>>> Also, are there any suggested edits with clarifications that we 
>>>> want to put in an -01 draft before the IETF deadline?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>     Erik
>>>>
>>>>> Can we meet for 30mins, I would like to go over the 
>>>>> recommendations in the DT draft to get clarifications.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there anything we want to discuss? Otherwise I can cancel it. 
>>>>> In general I guess, once our recommendation is adopted, we can 
>>>>> <mailto:[email-masked]>>; Erik Nordmark 
>>>>> (michsmit) <[email-masked] <mailto:[email-masked]>>; 
>>>>> <mailto:[email-masked]>>
>>>>> I am setting up the regular 2 hour sync, based on preferred time 
>>>>> in doodle. If an alternative method like WebEx is preferred for 
>>>>> the online call, then please set it up as I only have access to Skype.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
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>>>>>
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From: Sami Boutros <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2017 16:39:28 +0000

Cool thanks Ilango,

Hi Folks,

I will submit the draft shortly.

Thanks,

Sami

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From: "Ganga, Ilango S" <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2017 22:21:57 +0000

Thank You, Sami.  I updated and submitted Geneve draft as per DT recommendations. 

Regards,
Ilango

-----Original Message-----
From: Sami Boutros [mailto:[email-masked]] 
Sent: Monday, March 13, 2017 9:39 AM
To: Ganga, Ilango S <[email-masked]>; Erik Nordmark <[email-masked]>; Erik Nordmark <[email-masked]>; Pankaj Garg <[email-masked]>; [email-masked]; Sam Aldrin <[email-masked]>; Michael Smith (michsmit) <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [nvo3-dt-encap] NVO3 Encap Design Team Weekly Sync

Cool thanks Ilango,

Hi Folks,

Thanks,

Sami

On 3/13/17, 8:45 AM, "Ganga, Ilango S" <[email-masked]> wrote:

>To: Ganga, Ilango S <[email-masked]>; Erik Nordmark 
><[email-masked]>; Erik Nordmark <[email-masked]>; Pankaj Garg 
><[email-masked]>; [email-masked]; Sam Aldrin 
>>Pankaj Garg <[email-masked]>; [email-masked]; Sam 
>>Aldrin <[email-masked]>; Michael Smith (michsmit) 
>><[email-masked]>
>>>However, bananas and apples are not equivalent AFAIK, so you need 
>>>some more clear wording for the last item.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>     Erik
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Sami
>>>>
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From: Sami Boutros <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2017 23:25:46 +0000

Thanks Ilango,

Sami