From: [email-masked]
Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 21:05:19 -0400

Even though this is an IETF document, I wonder if
you need the "of Networks".  In the Core Policy
documents, we've tried to keep the scope of potential
application broader than just networking, while at
the same time focusing initially on networking
disciplines like QoS and IPsec.

Regards,
Bob

Bob Moore
Advanced Design and Technology
Application Integration Middleware Division
IBM Software Group
+1-919-254-4436
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"Andrea Westerinen" <[email-masked]>@raleigh.ibm.com on 05/02/2001
04:32:03 AM

Please respond to "Andrea Westerinen" <[email-masked]>

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Subject:  RE: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-policy-terminology-03.txt

Thanks for the input on this.

Given all the suggestions below, I think that
   Terminology for Policy-Based Management of Networks
might work.

Is this acceptable?
Andrea

-----Original Message-----
From: Scherling, Mark [mailto:[email-masked]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 9:03 AM
To: 'Wijnen, Bert (Bert)'; Policy Framework WG; Andrea Westerinen
Subject: RE: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-policy-terminology-03.txt

I agree with Bert that the title should reflect the contents.  If the title
is too broad it will not give any value to the contents since people will
assume that all terminology is defined there.  The title should be
"Technical Policy Terminology" since it defines policy in technical terms,
mostly related to networks.  Using just Policy Terminology would not be
correct since it doesn't define policy in a legal sense.

-----Original Message-----
From: Wijnen, Bert (Bert) [mailto:[email-masked]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 1:37 AM
To: Policy Framework WG; Andrea Westerinen
Subject: RE: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-policy-terminology-03.txt

Inline

> ----------
> From:   Andrea Westerinen[SMTP:[email-masked]]
> Sent:   Tuesday, May 01, 2001 6:43 AM
> To:     Wijnen, Bert (Bert); Policy Framework WG
> Subject:     RE: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-policy-terminology-03.txt
>
> Agreed.  The title at the top of the pages is "Policy Terminology" but
the
> lead title is incorrect.  Is "Policy Terminology" acceptable?
>
That is certainly better. Other titles we've used for this doc in the past

An old one from Strassner/Ellesson (jun 1999) had the
title:

   Terminology for describing network policy and services

Another one from March 2000 (Reichmeyer, Grossman, Strassner,
Condell) has the title:

   A Common Terminology for Policy Management

In any event, the title should be such that we indicate for which "area" or
"domain" we are trying to define the terminology.
Maybe a title like:

   A Common Terminology for Policy-based Management

Bert

> Andrea
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email-masked]
> [mailto:[email-masked]]On Behalf Of Wijnen, Bert (Bert)
> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 10:14 AM
> To: Policy Framework WG
> Subject: FW: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-policy-terminology-03.txt
>
>
> I think Randy has a point here!
>
> Bert
>
> > ----------
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> > Sent:      Thursday, April 26, 2001 6:21 PM
> > To:   Bert Wijnen
> > Subject:   I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-policy-terminology-03.txt
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> > perhaps the title of this draft could be narrowed a bit.
> >
> > From: [email-masked]
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> > Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-policy-terminology-03.txt
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> > --NextPart
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> > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
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> > This draft is a work item of the Policy Framework Working Group of the
> > IETF.
> >
> >  Title          : Terminology
> >  Author(s) : A. Westerinen et al.
> >  Filename  : draft-ietf-policy-terminology-03.txt
> >  Pages          : 20
> >  Date      : 25-Apr-01
> >
> > This document is a glossary of policy-related terms.  It
> > provides abbreviations, explanations, and recommendations for
> > use of these terms.  The document takes the approach and format
> > of RFC2828 [R2828], which defines an Internet Security Glossary.
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