Subject: Re: Re: [Softwires] Interim Meeting Date/Location

From: "Yong" <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2006 14:17:20 +0800

Hi, Mark and Jordi,

Since some of us from CERNET may need to attend APRICOT, I also 
agree to having the interim in Perth. Anyway, due to the visa issue, 
I hope to confirm meeting venue soon. 

======= 2006-01-07 20:42:28 You wrote =======

>JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
>
>>Hi Mark,
>>
>>Thanks a lot for this.
>>
>>This seems much more reasonable than the previous arrangement, but may be it
>>will be much better doing it directly in Perth ?
>>  
>>
>Good idea. However, we would first need a host, and I would need to know 
>that this doesn't unduly burden those in Asia by forcing them to fly to 
>Perth. I don't want to make this an APRICOT-only meeting. The idea was 
>to accomodate myself and Alain and anyone else going to Apricot, while 
>still being convienent to those based in Asia. I'm afraid that in Perth 
>we might end up with the worst of both worlds, except for those 
>attending APRICOT.
>
>>The other point is that if the intend is to increase the participation and
>>even for those going to APRICOT, the dates should be slightly before what
>>you say, otherwise it will actually conflict with some of us going to
>>APRICOT for doing some workshops.
>>
>>Just in case you didn't realized it, here are the dates for APRICOT and
>>APNIC (arranged together in Perth):
>>
>>- APRICOT: 22-26 February (http://www.apricot2006.net)
>>- APNIC: 27 Feb. - 3 March (http://www.apnic.net/meetings/21/index.html)
>>
>>Making it 20-21 will help (with a smaller possibility of conflict if is done
>>in Hong Kong, because the flight time).
>>  
>>
>That's a very long time in Perth and away from families. Are the 
>workshops really a source of conflict? I was operating under the 
>assumption that the second week of APRICOT was more well-attended than 
>the first.
>
>>What is really important is to make sure that we fix it very soon, please,
>>in order to avoid paying for more expensive flights !
>>
>>  
>>
>No doubt. And while it is good to have lots of input on the subject, 
>each time we entertain it we push the date out again.
>
>So, Jordi, are you personally objecting to Feb 23-24?
>
>Also, group, is there anyone here who was planning on attending the 
>APRICOT workshops Jordi referred to who will not be able to attend a 
>softwire meeting on Feb 23-24 due to this?
>
>Thanks,
>
>- Mark
>
>>Regards,
>>Jordi
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>>>De: Mark Townsley <[email-masked]>
>>>Responder a: <[email-masked]>
>>>Fecha: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 14:34:45 -0600
>>>Para: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
>>>Asunto: [Softwires] Interim Meeting Date/Location
>>>
>>>
>>>As Dave said, trying to find a date that is acceptable even just among
>>>the chairs and AD has been difficult. After much discussion amongst the
>>>3 of us, I'd like to accept Xing Li's proposal to host in Hong Kong,
>>>with Feb 23-24 as the target date.
>>>
>>>I understand that this is overstepping the 30-day pre-ietf window just a
>>>bit, and I am prepared to take any heat for that. The intent for
>>>selection of these dates is to increase global participation, catering a
>>>bit to those traveling from outside Asia (including Alain and I) who
>>>will be attending APRICOT in Perth the following week (meaning only one
>>>round-trip laterally across the globe).
>>>
>>>Please flame NOW if these dates are unacceptable, but know that
>>>alternatives will likely be just as problematic to someone else. This
>>>interim meeting will focus on selecting a solution for the problem
>>>statement the group has described, and it is very important that we have
>>>one person available at the meeting that is very familiar with each
>>>solution to be considered. Remote participation will be made available
>>>for those who simply cannot attend or send someone in their stead,
>>>though physical presence is greatly preferred in order to faciliate
>>>thorough discussion and consensus.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>- Mark
>>>
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Best regards,
14:13:30 2006-01-08
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