Subject: RE: [Speechsc] EMMA: Extensible MultiModal Annotation markup languagesupport?

From: "Shanmugham, Saravanan" <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2005 11:55:03 -0700

Added to this list. The text proposed by Dave will be added to the next
draft.

Sarvi 

     -----Original Message-----
     From: [email-masked] 
     [mailto:[email-masked]] On Behalf Of Brett Gavagni
     Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 11:36 AM
     To: Dave Burke
     Cc: [email-masked]; David R. Oran; 
     [email-masked]; Jerry Carter; Reifenrath, Klaus
     Subject: Re: [Speechsc] EMMA: Extensible MultiModal 
     Annotation markup languagesupport?
     
     What's the status of this request as it doesn't appear to 
     have been addressed in the 07 draft or the roundup tool?
     
     Thanks,
     
     Brett Gavagni
     WebSphere Voice Server Development
     http://www-306.ibm.com/software/pervasive/voice_server/
     [email-masked]

     
     "Dave Burke" <[email-masked]> Sent by: 
     [email-masked]
     06/01/2005 11:30 AM
     
     To
     "David R. Oran" <[email-masked]>, "Reifenrath, Klaus" 
     <[email-masked]>
     cc
     [email-masked], Jerry Carter <[email-masked]> Subject
     Re: [Speechsc] EMMA: Extensible MultiModal Annotation 
     markup language support?

     
     Having experienced the pain of several MRCPv1 ASR 
     integrations (almost 
     exclusively because of the previously insufficiently defined reco 
     results), 
     we agree with the comment for "stable base for development and 
     deployment".
     
     Worried that even a "MAY support EMMA" is damaging but think it a 
     reasonable 
     compromise to add an informative note pointing out that 
     the intent is to 
     incorporate EMMA when it is a stable standard. This way 
     the direction is 
     clear and we don't have to revisit this question bimonthly!
     
     -- Dave
     
     ----- Original Message ----- 
     From: "David R. Oran" <[email-masked]>
     To: "Reifenrath, Klaus" <[email-masked]>
     Cc: <[email-masked]>; "Jerry Carter" <[email-masked]>
     Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 3:07 PM
     Subject: Re: [Speechsc] EMMA: Extensible MultiModal 
     Annotation markup 
     language support?

     > **Chair hat on**
     >
     > The WG consensus, established over a number of IETF 
     meetings and mailing 
     
     > list discussion, was to publish MRCPv2 with the embedded 
      NLSML so that 
     > implementations would have a stable base for  
     development and initial 
     > deployment.
     >
     > The intent has always been to incorporate EMMA once it 
     was deemed  fully 
     
     > cooked.
     >
     > If the WG wants to revisit this consensus in light of 
     the fact we  will 
     be 
     > going to last call on MRCPv2 imminently, I'll certainly  
     entertain that 
     > possibility.
     >
     > Dave.
     >
     >
     > On Jun 1, 2005, at 9:50 AM, Reifenrath, Klaus wrote:
     >
     >> Hi Brett,
     >>
     >> right, NLSML did not become a W3C Recommendation. 
     Therefore the  MRCPv2 
     
     >> spec
     >> includes a definition of NLSML (see sections 9.6 and 
     A.2.1 in the  06 
     >> version
     >> of MRCPv2).
     >>
     >> Klaus
     >>
     >> -----Original Message-----
     >> From: Brett Gavagni [mailto:[email-masked]]
     >> Sent: Mittwoch, 1. Juni 2005 15:34
     >> To: Jerry Carter
     >> Cc: [email-masked]
     >> Subject: Re: [Speechsc] EMMA: Extensible MultiModal 
     Annotation markup
     >> language support?
     >>
     >> The current W3 NLSML specification is also a "W3 
     Working Draft" and not 
     
     >> a
     >> "W3 Recommendation".
     >>
     >> http://www.w3.org/TR/nl-spec/
     >> Natural Language Semantics Markup Language for the 
     Speech Interface
     >> Framework
     >>
     >> W3C Working Draft 20 November 2000
     >>
     >> The current NLSML specification is actually more 
     outdated in terms  of 
     >> the
     >> function required to support the current SGRS 
     specification (ie. 
     >> Semantic
     >> Interpretation).
     >>
     >> My suggestion would be to amend the current MRCPv2 
     specification to 
     >> include
     >> EMMA support as at least optional.
     >>
     >> Thanks,
     >>
     >> Brett Gavagni
     >> WebSphere Voice Server Development
     >> http://www-306.ibm.com/software/pervasive/voice_server/
     >> (561) 862-2097 T/L (975)
     >> [email-masked]
     >>
     >>
     >>
     >>
     >> Jerry Carter <[email-masked]>
     >> 06/01/2005 09:16 AM
     >>
     >> To
     >> Brett Gavagni/West Palm Beach/IBM@IBMUS
     >> cc
     >> [email-masked]
     >> Subject
     >> Re: [Speechsc] EMMA: Extensible MultiModal Annotation 
     markup language
     >> support?
     >>
     >>
     >>
     >>
     >>
     >>
     >> Give that EMMA is at working draft level within the 
     W3C, it would be
     >> premature to require any form of EMMA support.  Making 
     a provision in
     >> MRCP to support EMMA at a later date would be 
     appropriate, though.
     >>
     >> On Jun 1, 2005, at 8:59 AM, Brett Gavagni wrote:
     >>
     >>
     >>> Are there currently any plans to include the support 
     for W3C EMMA
     >>> Working
     >>> Draft to the MRCPv2 specification for the returning of 
     recognition
     >>> results?
     >>>
     >>> Thanks,
     >>>
     >>> Brett Gavagni
     >>> WebSphere Voice Server Development
     >>> http://www-306.ibm.com/software/pervasive/voice_server/
     >>> (561) 862-2097 T/L (975)
     >>> [email-masked]
     >>>
     >>>
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