Subject: [Taps] Minutes for IETF 111 TAPS session (was: Draft agenda)

From: Theresa Enghardt <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2021 11:50:39 -0700

Dear TAPS,

Thank you again to everyone who participated in last week's TAPS Working 
Group session at IETF 111!

For those who missed it, you can watch the recording 
here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIv0AsoV31M

Please find below the minutes, which are also in the 
datatracker: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/minutes-111-taps/

The cutoff date for changes until 2021-09-13.

Thank you again to Kyle Rose for capturing key discussion points and 
action items!

  TAPS IETF 111 Session

Tuesday, July 27, 2021

14:30-15:30 Tuesday Session II

WG Chairs: Theresa Enghardt & Aaron Falk

Minute takers: Kyle Rose

Participants request permission to revise and extend their remarks.

    WG update - chairs (10 min)

Intense discussion re: the large number of authors

  * Only 4 docs >= 7 authors in the last ten years
  * RFC editor doesn't have a policy against lots of authors, but they
    do have recommendations
  * Tommy points out that docs/do/currently have 2 editors apiece, with
    the remainder as authors
  * Needs further discussion offline

    Implementation updates - Tommy Pauly (5 min)

    TAPS Transport Discovery - Martin Duke (15 min)

  * Dan Druta raised a point about chain of custody of the trusted
    computing base for an application, which is complicated by a
    userspace daemon in the middle of comms.
  * Open issue in
    Github: https://github.com/martinduke/draft-duke-taps-transport-discovery

    Mapping documents - Tommy Pauly (15 min)

  * Aaron suggested that a few examples would illustrate how future
    mappings should be constructed.
  * Lucas would be happy to help facilitate mapping work with the QUIC WG.

    W3C Web & Networks Interest Group - Dan Druta (15 min)

  * Aaron thinks the real value here is in engaging outside groups with
    TAPS work, and where it isn't a great fit, providing feedback on how
    to improve or alter the architecture to be more useful.

    FIN 🍻

Looking forward to seeing folks at the interim on August 20 at 15:00 UTC!

Best,
Theresa

On 7/9/21 9:31 AM, Theresa Enghardt wrote:
> Dear TAPS,
>
> Here's the draft agenda for the TAPS WG meeting at IETF 111:
>
>
> 1. WG update - chairs (10 min)
>
> 2. Implementation updates - Tommy Pauly (5 min)
>
> 3. TAPS Transport Discovery - Martin Duke (15 min)
>
> 4. Mapping documents - Tommy Pauly (15 min)
>
> 5. W3C Web & Networks Interest Group - Dan Druta (15 min)
>
>
> Best,
> Theresa
>
>
> On 7/2/21 3:03 PM, "IETF Secretariat" wrote:
>> Dear Theresa Enghardt,
>>
>> The session(s) that you have requested have been scheduled.
>> Below is the scheduled session information followed by
>> the original request.
>>
>>
>>      taps Session 1 (1:00 requested)
>>      Tuesday, 27 July 2021, Session II 1430-1530
>>      Room Name: Room 8 size: 508
>>      ---------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> iCalendar: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/111/sessions/taps.ics
>>
>> Request Information:
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>> Working Group Name: Transport Services
>> Area Name: Transport Area
>> Session Requester: Theresa Enghardt
>>
>>
>> Number of Sessions: 1
>> Length of Session(s):  1 Hour
>> Number of Attendees: 50
>> Conflicts to Avoid:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> People who must be present:
>>    Aaron Falk
>>    Anna Brunstrom
>>    Brian Trammell
>>    Colin Perkins
>>    Gorry Fairhurst
>>    Kyle Rose
>>    Martin Duke
>>    Michael Welzl
>>    Mirja Kuehlewind
>>    Philipp S. Tiesel
>>    Theresa Enghardt
>>    Tommy Pauly
>>    Zaheduzzaman Sarker
>>
>> Resources Requested:
>>
>> Special Requests:
>>    The IRTF Chair is a contributor to TAPS so please avoid IRTF RGs 
>> if possible.
>> ---------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>
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